It never fails to shock me how a tip is demanded in the US. People simply refuse to listen to reason when we (yes, there are others!) tell them that leaving a tip isn’t necessary. Well, I’m hoping for too much here, but if you’re a waiter, here are 5 reasons why I will try my best not to give any money to you and why the reasons for tipping are crappy.
1. You act as if you’re my best friend
Just leave me alone ok? I don’t want to bloody chit chat with you. I want food. FOOD! Get it? It’s a restaurant. I go there to eat. I go because I want either Italian food, Chinese Food or something else which I can’t get in a McDonald’s. So I come to a restaurant to fulfill my cravings for it. I will pay for what I value – food. Not you.
Christ, you offend me – kneeling down next to my table, pretending to like me and chatting as if you’re my best friend when it’s obvious that all you’re after is the tip! I’m not a bloody money bag you know. I will pay the bill which includes the cost of the food, the environment and the salaries of the people involved – nothing more.
The only way to get money out of me that I don’t have to legally pay is by prying it out of my cold dead hands…
Bottom line: I don’t want to know your name, or interact with you for any longer than I have to in order to place my order. As far as I’m concerned, you’re the equivalent of a conveyor belt that brings me my food and a computer into which I input my order. Of course, I won’t be rude. But don’t expect me to interact with you any more than I would with some stranger.
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2. You don’t get paid enough
And this is my problem how exactly? It’s astonishing that customers are expected to make up for your employer’s cheapness in not paying you a decent wage. Please include the full cost in everyone’s bill thank you very much. I’ll pay it because I have to and the charge is there for me to see.
What’s really funny here is that no one seems to criticize the employers! All criticism is reserved for non tipping customers instead of the owners of the restaurant for not paying a decent wage. Wtf! Could it possibly be because you guys know you can make much more by tips and under report your income to the IRS?
3. You’ll spit in my food if I don’t tip you?
And I’ll shoot your kid if you don’t give me a million dollars. Seriously, am I even hearing this right? You’re actually using the threat of blackmail to make me pay you? Well as long as you’re openly claiming to be a criminal it’s all right I guess.
Fortunately that’s why I prefer buffets. Listen apart from it being illegal, this shows your poor integrity. But if you spit in someone’s food because they didn’t give you money you didn’t earn, then you’re a loser and deserve to be a waiter for the rest of your life.
4. Bringing me my food isn’t worthy of being paid extra
Did you cook it? Did you invent it? No. You picked it up and brought it to me. While it might not be easy, there are plenty of jobs which are much worse – shop floor workers for example. And I’ve been a shop floor manager, so I know. Face it – compared to other jobs, being a waiter is unskilled. You get paid what the market will think your services are worth. You don’t deserve more for your work over and above what your employer should pay you.
5. Money doesn’t grow on trees
I expect you to be grateful and pray for me at night if I tip you 10%. Be happy I gave you anything at all. I worked for the money in my wallet and by giving you some I didn’t have to, I’m doing you a favor. Learn to remember that when people give you something they don’t need to, it’s a favor. You don’t complain that they didn’t give you more!
By the way, the same thing above applies to all professions that demand tips including those on cruise liners.
So now that you understand why I won’t give you money you don’t deserve, stop with the “oh how could you?” attitude. I can. And I will.
Update: Here’s a rebuttal of the many silly justifications for tipping that people have given in the comments section.
This entire thread had gotten ridiculous and out of hand. Federal laws require that tipped employees make less per hour because it has been proven that tips are frequently given in the U.S. If you AVERGE less than minimum wage per hour over any payroll period, (typically 2 weeks for most) then employers are required to compensate. It is fair, but incredibly difficult to prove or get money from the employer. It is important to note that neither the employer NOR the employee chose this system. It is a result of lawmaking from the “powers that be” decades ago. Luckily for you, the minimum wage has increased for inflation in every industry except hospitalty. We could vote to change this law, but misinformed fellows like yourself are out there convincing people that it’s not anyone’s responsibility to pay for server wages, and the voting is never successful. I put you in the same category with Oprah based on her refusal to tip on bottled wine costs or taxes. You are both fools. You are a lazy person who would likely stay home and cook your own Italian fare if you had even the first notion of how to do so. You do not have any idea of how a restaurant works or the overhead needed to run a food establishment. One that exists for the sole purpose of servicing people (like you) while they complain about every little thing and simultaneously shove too much food into their mouths. I bartend at a high scale restaurant and make minimum wage plus tips. Not because I expect it or ask for it, but because I have earned it. I know more about food, spirits, and wine than the average server, and have gained this knowledge by a desire to be better at my job. I am humbled when a person tips me large sums of their hard-earned money. I do not judge a dollar earned whether it comes from a spoiled trust fund baby or a blue collar worker out celebrating an anniversary. In my eyes, they gave me that money because I earned it. It wasn’t given to the chef, the host, or the server assistants (Tipping of these employees does happen often at my job). It was given TO ME. I earned it during the countless hours spent researching gluten-free spirits and herb infused cocktails. I earned it when I was able to avoid an allergic reaction because I knew one of our appetizers comes to our establishment previously seasoned with garlic. I am not just an order taker, I am not just a hand that pours a beer into a glass. I am a hospitality expert and there are thousands of sommeliers in the world who would agree with me. Fast food workers arent even in the same category as servers for so many obvious reasons (Think about that the next time you order a 4th glass of diet soda, or extra salad dressing…..you won’t get that at a Hardees). If you cannot discern these differences for yourself, then it is not worth my time illustrating them to you, for you are lost. Thankfully, you sir, are a minority, your efforts to convince people they should not tip are futile, and my very comfortable earnings from 3 shifts a week prove it. If you ever found yourself in the establishment in which I work, I can assure you that mistakes with your order would happen. You see, at the end of the day, whether you’re paying for food or for a tip, your food is at the mercy of these “idiot workers.” I don’t know how you like to live your life, but as for me…..I prefer not to make enemies out of those who prepare my food. So, please, do us all a favor and stop trolling around restaurants (and the internet, for that matter) with your stingy, ungrateful, and laughably misinformed opinions. Trust me, we do not want your money. Incorrect orders and long preparation times are our only tactic to get you to never come back. So next time you’re craving something you can’t get from McDonalds….make it yourself and see if you feel as if you earned eating it.
In reply to Brianna Lewis
You’re incredibly confused. Federal law does not, anywhere, REQUIRE employers pay tipped employees less than minimum wage. It ALLOWS them to do so with the exception that they must make up ANY difference between that and the federal minimum wage, should it not be made in tips. The law says nothing about “averaging,” just that their compensation for hours worked must be, at minimum, the Federal minimum wage.
Also, servers do nothing more than that of fast food workers, whether you believe so or not. And no, your tips are not “earned.” In fact, that’s the entire delusion that’s the problem. You’re already paid for your job. Don’t like that fact? Tough beans. If you don’t do the work, you don’t get paid, so they sure aren’t paying you to do nothing. You are the person who accepted MINIMUM WAGE for the work you do.
And it’s actually a pretty big movement to get rid of tipping. There are a LOT of people posing very valid points questioning it. In fact, with every whiny complaint about not being tipped posted on social media and going viral, more and more people are starting to question why people tip in the first place.
In reply to That’s a lie
Im a delivery driver and yes my hourly rate is below minimum wage, and thatvis legal under current law for “tipped worker” positions. I use my own car and gas. I am responsible for maintenance and repair. This adds up to thousands a year. If I wasnt tipped, id actually spend money at work and make nothing. Still people with a skewed perception of reality dont tip me. When that happens they tend to become less of a priority when i have many orders at once. My job is serious and involves skill if its done safely. I drive as much as any, trick driver, postal worker, or any other driving job with decent hourly wage and with tips I make it. So there get your head right.
In reply to Anrhony
Since you replied directly to my comment, I want to point out I was specifically stating that the law does not require restaurants to pay a “tipped” wage, only that they have the option to do so and that, by law, they must ensure any employee receives Federal minimum wage with or without tips even if they choose to do so.
Now, I personally do tip delivery drivers, but it’s largely due to the fact that I live in the middle of nowhere and it is really out of the way, so tipping guarantees that they don’t just decide not to deliver to my outside-the-delivery-area home. It’s more like a bribe than a tip, I guess you could say.
That being said, I’ll point out that you get to claim gas you are not reimbursed for as a work expense on your taxes. Furthermore, as I’ve pointed out to servers here: you chose your job and accepted the terms of that job offer, which includes everything you said. That is still never the customer’s problem, nor responsibility.
In reply to Anrhony
Cry me a river you big baby. You are paid a fair wage for unskilled labor. Deliver my stuff to me it is your job. I will not tip you because I paid for the delivery. My tip to you is get a better job. If my delivery is late, you can bet your ass I will be compensated.
In reply to Frank
You’re a sad disgusting excuse as a human being, do you hate your life that you have to make others more difficult? My tip to you is go get laid because by your grumpy personality I’m assuming you haven’t in 10 years
In reply to Frank
Amazing how someone can say something like this and still use the service. If your “tip” is to get a better job then what your pathetic, foolish ass do when you want your delivery? You are so dusgusting.
In reply to Rich
You aren’t providing any reason to tip. The employee IS paid. If there were no customers, there would be no job (regardless of tips). If they don’t do their job, they will noylt continue to have one (regardless of tips).
If the person wants more than the minimum wage they accepted by taking the job – the wage the job is worth – then the solution is to get a better job, not expect people to pay them to do what they are already being paid to do.
In reply to Brianna Lewis
You are an unskilled modern slave. You have delusions of grandeur. Nothing you do is skilled or requires intelligence. I will never tip you. Just being in my presence is a great honor for you.
In reply to Dale
People with an attitude like you maybe shouldn’t order anything, go to mcdonalds
In reply to Brianna Lewis
Well Said Brianna!!!!!!!!!! I Supported My Daughter By Being A Bartender & Waitress! Way Back In The Early 80’s My Paycheck Was A Joke But My Tips Were Great!!!!!!!!!!! I Worked Hard At Being The Best I Could Be At Both Jobs! Not Everyone Knows When To Go To The Table, When To Give People Space & Putting Up With Attitudes Such As Dale (far & few between, thank heaven) & Still Keep A Smile For Your Next Customer! Bartending Also Requires A Certain Personality To Be Considered Great At The Job! I Run My Own Floral Shop These Days And Tips From The Lovely People I Dealt With Made That Possible! I Still Deal With The Public In That Job & Still Enjoy It! I Feel Sorry For This Bitter Man!!!!!!!!!!!!! I EARNED EVERY DOLLAR THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME!!!!!!!!!!! AND NO MCDONALD’S WORKERS COULD NOT HAVE DONE MY JOB! Fast Food Is Totally Different! I Can Say That I’m Now A Very Large Tipper As I Know What These Workers Go Through!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mrs Margaret Erben
In reply to margie erben
In my opinion… McDonald’s workers have a more stressful job and work much harder than a server.
You are an arrogant ignorant fucking sniveling piece of shit. All your reasoning is the most blatantly ignorant fucktarded bullshit that’s obviously coming from the most sheltered and retarded of tiny craven simpleton brains. It’s real simple, if you don’t like to tip, don’t add a servant to your eating equation. Go to a fast food place or get take out, then you can maintain your shitty cunt attitude and not put a damper on some poor hard working souls night, they’re only being nice to you because your lousy fucking couple dollars might be the difference between them eating and not for a night. You know what i would do if I saw you stabbed up and bleeding in the street? I would laugh as I stepped over you, and I would do my best to squeeze out a shart over your soon to be corpse.
In reply to Fuck you
Last night we had a reservation at an upscale restaurant. We stayed for over 2 hours and the bill was over $230 for the 5 of us. We left no tip. The server is already making minimum wage.
In reply to NoTipSkip
The whole point of going to a restaurant is to pay for the service also, if you don’t want to do that then go to chickfila
In reply to Kylie
We do pay for the service. It’s why the food is more expensive. Servers aren’t our employee – they work for the restaurant – and earn the minimum wage they deserve.
In reply to What a joke
We don’t earn minimum wage. We are supposed too, but restaurants do not fully make up for it. We are payed 2.13$ an hour. That is our wages. I don’t even touch my wages because we live off of tips. So whenever you have a server for an hour or two and your bill runs up and youstiff them you took time from them where they could be making money, so fuck you. We do NOT make enough money without tips.
In reply to Fuckers
“We don’t earn minimum wage. We are supposed too, but restaurants do not fully make up for it. We are payed 2.13$ an hour. That is our wages. I don’t even touch my wages because we live off of tips.”
Your tips count as income. If you receive no tip, your employer legally must make up the difference. If you do receive tips, but still don’t get enough to equal Federal minimum wage, your employer must make up the difference. If they do not, they are breaking the law. If they are breaking the law and, between their wage and tips, you do not make $7.25 an hour before taxes, and they don’t make up the difference, that is not our problem. Report them for breaking the law. Sue them for unpaid wages. Either way, not the customer’s responsibility.
“So whenever you have a server for an hour or two and your bill runs up and youstiff them you took time from them where they could be making money, so fuck you. We do NOT make enough money without tips.”
It’s not stiffing them. They are being paid to do the job by their employer. If you feel it’s not adequate compensation for the job, that’s not the customer’s concern. You accept the wage offered, you continue to work there for that wage. There is no guarantee of tips, no law requiring them, and never, ever, should they simply be expected.
In reply to What a joke
You’re a cunt too and you can eat shit too!
In reply to Ex-Server
You can’t call somebody cheap when they are spending hundreds of dollars just because they refuse to give somebody money to do what they are already paid to do.
Maybe servers should tip customers for being so kind as to ensure they have a job by being patrons?
In reply to NoTipSkip
You’re a fucking cunt. Eat shit you cheap ass prick!
In reply to Ex-Server
I think your just upset because you got fired from being a shitty waitress.
In reply to NoTipSkip
Wait… 5 of you went to an “upscale” restaurant and the tab was only $230? That’s only $46 per person and not by any means upscale. What did you do? Not get any appetizers and refuse to allow anyone a cocktail? You probably SHOULDN’T tip if that’s all you can afford. Poor guy :(
In reply to NoTipSkip
What a broke fuck you are. Having to brag about how much you spend at dinner for you and you’re fucking cunt group. Did you complain the whole time also? Did you have to speak to the manager so you could get 50% off? Cause you’re so fucking broke? I bet you did! Go eat some shit ass food from Walmart. Douchebag. Please don’t reproduce little scumbags like yourself.
In reply to Not a poorcunt.
Your*.
You don’t want to pay? Prepe your own food you filthy rat!
In reply to Han
Who said anything about not paying? Of course we pay the restaurant the price they list for food and prep (plus tax).
Servers aren’t responsible for the food prep – the cooks are. And servers aren’t our employees, either..
In reply to What a joke
Where I work we get paid $2 a hour and we have to pay the restaurant a percentage of our sales so they can “tip” the bartender and host. So you not tipping because you don’t think servers do anything makes said server lose money. Please educate yourself before you open your mouth.
In reply to Me
Funny you tell other people to educate themselves when you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. All servers make the Federal minimum wage. It’s the law.
“If an employee’s tips combined with the employer’s direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the Federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference.”
http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm
So are you attempting to lie, or are you just so stupid that you’d tell others to educate themselves when you clearly haven’t yourself?
The restaurant where I work has a combined tip pool. Everyone gets a portion of it depending on how many hours they have worked that week (cooks, servers, bussers) and I think people seem to like that better.
I believe you should still tip waitresses (unless it is bad service of course) even the smallest amount because many are college students trying to get a degree. That’s the situation I’m in. I’m trying to make rent and pay for my textbooks and tuition at the same time. Although, I do agree that many get stuck in this job because they enjoy having the extra cash and because it is fairly easy.
If you don’t want to tip, that’s fine. I don’t agree, but you do you. Just don’t get mad at the servers for trying to talk to you or for the fact that they don’t get paid minimum wage. I am forced to make small talk with my customers by my management team and I get reprimanded if I don’t. I’m not exaggerating. I agree with you, though, that I dislike small talk when I’m trying to eat but I at least see it from their point of view and know that sometimes they don’t have much of a choice.
In reply to Not trying to pick a fight
You do make minimum wage dumbass
In reply to Jack The Non-Tipper
Servers make less than $3 an hour sir, next time you want to call someone a dumbass message yourself
In reply to Kylie
You do make minimum-wage you stupid cunt.
http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm
With or without tips your hourly wage has to be federal minimum-wage or the employer has to make up the difference.
You are either stupid, retarded, or a liar.
I love ordering very expensive meals at upscale restaurants. I never leave a tip, and you better give me excellent service or you won’t have a job the next day.
Federal minimum wage is not fair to your employer because you are overpaid. You are just a living conveyor belt.
In reply to Jack The Non-Tipper
Alright Jack, I see your point. However, I fail to see how calling me a dumbass will me feel inferior. Calling me a dumbass through a username is easy and getting so heated about a discussion about tipping/not tipping servers is, well, pointless. I wasn’t trying to pick a fight, as my username clearly states. I was just trying to display my side of the argument in the most logical manner I could.
I will admit when I am wrong though. Thank you for correcting me as I do understand that if your tips do not make up for the difference than you will be paid minimum (you must be a horrible waitress if that happens).
I just feel that not tipping, even the slightest amount, is cheap. If I went on a first date with someone and they did not tip, there would be no second. If you make such great money, why not spread the wealth? It feels selfish to me. I’m not calling you or anyone selfish, just the act itself.
Name calling is also a boarish way to go about a discussion but go about this as you please. Let the immature titles fly.
In reply to Not trying to pick a fight
“If you make such great money, why not spread the wealth? It feels selfish to me.”
First, because we earn our money. It’s not like it’s just handed to us or something. We’ve done a lot to make that money, too. We’ve put in the work and effort it takes to get the salary we earn.
Second, because they’re already being paid to do their job. While we make more money than them, we don’t get paid extra just for doing what we’re already being paid to do. Neither does anyone who also gets paid minimum wage. The guy at BK, the cashier at the store, and so on. Why should servers who – regardless of what they want to believe – work no harder than most other minimum wage workers get paid a bonus just to do their job?
Third, because we already do “spread the wealth.” Not only do the rich pay more directly in taxes, but (because of tax brackets) pay a greater percentage of their income. The tax money we pay out goes to welfare programs that help the needy. On top of that, the rich (having more money) tend to donate more to charity.
You may think it’s cheap, but it’s sensible. Imagine if every person you encountered who was doing their job held out their hand for a tip. Imagine every time you had somebody ring you up at the store, they held out their hand for a tip. Imagine greeters saying, “Welcome to Walmart!” while holding their hand out expectantly. Heck, imagine police officers, firefighters, nurses, and doctors. All of them holding out their hand for a tip. It doesn’t matter if they make more money, they’ve done more to earn that money. Now, imagine if you didn’t give them a tip they refused to do their job – the one they’re being paid to do – for you anymore.
This is the attitude of servers. Look through the comments here. The entitlement they show. The attitude they show of refusing to do their job for people who aren’t willing to pay them for something they’re already being paid to do. Their blame of the customer for something that is their employer’s responsibility, and their fault through accepting the terms of their job. Look at the racism. While many against tips here have shown a sense of classism, it’s not as if servers have no choice. Their pay is a CHOICE they accepted. Their job is a CHOICE they accepted. To whine about it and expect others to pay out for it is absurd. And actually paying them just exacerbates that problem. It’s like handing the neighbor kid $1 one day, just because you happen to have it, and having them show up at your door and ask for more the next day.
In reply to What a joke
Jack,
Fair enough. I see your point. I am not going to lie, I hate my job. Being a waitress is difficult because it does feel like I am milking my customers for their cash. However, in general, I have a big, cheery personality so that does help me bring in decent paychecks.
This job for me is not a lifestyle. It is merely a way of making ends meet for the time being. I am majoring in psychology right now. In fact, having a job like this helps keep me in school because I couldn’t stand being a server for the rest of my life.
I see where you are coming from, I never said I didn’t. Though I won’t stop thinking that not tipping is cheap, I understand that serving food is not a skill based job. It is, though, a job that is highly stressful and physically taxing at times and that is why I will continue to tip regardless.
Thank you for holding back on the names, I appreciate it. This debate is all in good fun and I do enjoy hearing those who have opinions different from my own. After all, it keeps the mind open.
Cheers
In reply to Not trying to pick a fight
I’m not Jack, I use the same name I usually do to keep a sense of “this is the same person who said this other comment.”
All jobs are stressful. Every single one. Google lists of heart attacks by profession. Bear in mind that the quality of food tends to go up as income improves, so those high-earners having heart attacks are a combination of inactivity and stress. Google lists of “most stressful jobs” and you’ll find quite a few lists. Some of the jobs will be similar, some will be different, but you won’t find one that lists server in a top 10. Being a server seems stressful, but it’s really not. If you screw up, people generally aren’t going to die (severe allergic reactions aside). If you screw up, the worst it’s going to cost you is your current job, and unless you make the news the chances are you can get a job somewhere else.
Stressful is knowing if you screw up you’ll cost somebody their life. Stressful is knowing that any minute you could personally die (like the military). Stressful is knowing that nearly EVERY person you deal with in your job is going to hate you (like when you’re a police officer). Stressful is when one mistake could cost the business you work for millions of dollars, cost dozens (or hundreds) of people their jobs, and that – if you get fired – nobody will hire you again.
In reply to What a joke
Sorry for calling you Jack. The changing of usernames can get confusing.
Anyway, I see your point and you have to understand is that I do agree with you. All jobs are stressful in their own way and I understand that there are some that are more important i.e. heart surgeon.
Stress is the surge of chemicals through your body causing the fight or flight response so, regardless of how mundane or tame the task, it still feels like a threat. Never once have I said “Servers are gods and what they do requires years and years of training”. I am just saying what I feel from a server’s viewpoint. For someone like me who suffers from anxiety, serving is a very stressful job as I try to make everyone happy not just because of the tips, but because I genuinely want them to have a good time.
Lastly, it can be stressful for someone who just lost everything and serving is their last resort. I have several well educated friends who are servers who are trying to make rent and they are stressed about the possibility of them being thrown out to the street. EVERYONE experiences stress. Again, in some situations, the stress will be even greater and the circumstances will be high. However, you don’t have to be a neurosurgeon to feel stress and to admit that you need a break. Stress is known to decrease your lifespan as well as cause multiple health problems in the future.
The only thing that really gets to me is your vibe of “I’m better than you” and correct me if that’s not at all what you mean.
In reply to Not trying to pick a fight
I am better than you. That $50 steak dinner is worth more than you have in your checking account. The poor will always serve the rich. It has always been that way.
In reply to Waldo
Well, Waldo, since you have said that, there is obviously no arguing with you. You might be better than me, I’m not sure since I don’t know you personally but congratulations! I hope that steak tastes amazing, I mean, it should considering it’s $50. I’m not even being sarcastic! I think everyone deserves to live their life to the fullest and if you are, that’s awesome!
Will I agree that you are truly better than me? No, because we are all born under different circumstances, have our own unique challenges, and I think we are all on this planet to accomplish different things. Everyone has their own definition of success and I’m glad you have met your own expectations. For right now, doing well in school, having a decent job, and having a roof over my head as well as enough healthy food to eat in my fridge is all I need. Thank you for the replies for debating is all in good fun. I sincerely (and I truly am being sincere) hope you have a wonderful life and keep achieving!
In reply to Waldo
wait. $50 steak? what are you getting a fucking 2oz sirloin? OMG. I would literally rather die than eat anything other than 102oz filet that cost around 1 million dollars. That is SO poor of you! Another thing, your name sucks.
In reply to What a joke
Where’s the respect at for not tipping someone who makes $2.13 an hour? You don’t know me I actually cannot just go out and choose a different job for reasons that I will not explain. RESPECT is why people tip FAMILYS are why people tip if tips were added to the entire bill would you pay? Yes because you would have to it would be part of your check. its people like you that are making that become more real. Restaurants are adding automatic tips into the bills because of people like you.
In reply to Fuck the NON TIPPERS
You make minimum wage, dumb ass
In reply to Not trying to pick a fight
My favorite thing about dining at upscale restaurants is the food and dessert. At the end of the meal when I leave no tip, I have already forgotten what the waiter and waitress even looks like.
You are nothing more to me than dogs that fetched my meal. As I’m walking out to my Porsche 944, you can say all the bad things you want behind my back.
In reply to Dale
Obviously you are just a person behind a computer screen
In reply to Dale
OServers at high end restraunt s have an extreamly difficult job dealing customers, being able to explain very complicated dishes too a mostly brain dead public, pairing wine and handling food allergy concerns all with a smile. When you do not tip you are litterlly taking money out of the servers pocket. Not only does a percentage of food sales go to the busser and expo, which comes out of the servers tips. Same with alcohol sales to to the bartender. But while your sitting at the table someone who isn’t a piece of shit like you could be. Word of advice don’t ever drink anywhere you don’t tip or you might get pulled over ;)
In reply to Dale
servers* not “oservers”
restaurants* not “restraunt s”
extremely * not “extreamly”
dealing with* customers not “dealing customers”
literally* not “litterlly”
you’re* sitting not “your sitting”
This is probably by far the most ignorant thing I’ve ever read. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to be a server but it does take a lot of patience for people like you. Anyone could be a server but it takes someone a lot to be a good server. How would you feel if you got $0 pay checks and you depended on your tips?
In reply to Kylie
http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm
You are a stupid lying sack of shit.
The only way I will give you extra money is if you suck my dick. No tip for you dumb bitch.
As you can see, you do make federal minimum-wage you lying piece of shit.
Top keks for the OP. 466 pages of pure trolling and still counting. Do people really read shit like this and don’t think it’s some basement dweller looking for attention? Keep on squeezing the tears out of these idiots, OP!
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I work for a military technology company. At least twice a week we take foreign dignitaries out for dinner and drinks. Approximately $60,000 per year is designated for this fund. About a year ago I volunteered for this duty because I enjoy dining at fine restaurants.
I found out that the person before me was leaving 20% tips. Luckily that fool was fired for incompetence. I submitted my yearly restaurant expense bill for about $50,000 to accounting. My boss called me for a meeting, he wanted to have a talk.
He was concerned and worried that I was skimping on cheaper restaurants and drinks. I gave him a list of all the fine restaurants we went to. The list was almost identical to last year.
I told him I saved 20% by not wasting it on tipping. He then complemented me by telling me the reason he is successful at his job is because he hires smart people that think outside the box.
I said thank you sir. My boss told me that I just received a $10,000 bonus. I told my boss what I would really like to do with this money is upgrade the employee kitchen and add a commercial cappuccino and espresso machine. He said wonderful idea have accounting take care of the details.
In reply to Captain Phil
If anyone falls for this shit, they aren’t smart enough to even be a host, let alone a waitor/waitress XD
In reply to Captain Phil
If you really thought outside of the box, you would sneak out the door before paying the bill. Fucking pleb.
In reply to Captain Phil
I work for a local news channel. We don’t tip and use the money to buy coffee and snacks for the break room. The waitress makes minimum-wage, she doesn’t need my 20% tip on top of her paycheck.
In reply to Captain Phil
$60,000 a year, is that a lot for you? I literally do not pay for my meal unless the bill is 5 billion dollars and I leave a 40 billion dollar tip. I would never go to a restaurant where a cup of water isn’t at LEAST $50,000.
And the assholes here are the same dipsshits who would vote for that clown Trump.
In reply to Fuggoff
Not I. The gas prices will go back up to $5/gal under Trump.
In reply to Fuggoff
I think the servers who’ve commented with their entitled attitude and racism are the more likely Trump supporters in the comments.
Are they the ones you’re referring to?
In reply to What a joke
THATS WHERE YOU’RE WRONG. I support Roseanne Barr for president.
I had dinner with the family at Ruth Chris last night. The bill was $270 including drinks and desert. We were there for about 90 min. We had excellent service and a wonderful meal. I left zero tip for the waitress.
On the way out we saw the waitress crying and complaining to another waitress that we left no tip, and Called us rich assholes.
We complained to the manager and he told us he was very sorry. The meal turned out to be free. The waitress is not important and easily replaceable.
In reply to Thomas
you are a cheap piece of shit, and probably have problems with erection, feel bad for you
In reply to mandy
I have no problem getting an erection. Thinking about money always arouses me. Making the waitress bust her ass and sweat made me very erect. Saving lots of money by not tipping and buying a brand-new Porsche 911 makes me hard as a rock. Watching all my stocks pay dividends makes me ejaculate. Knowing that I am better than you, and any waitress makes me erect as well.
While I can definitely see the authors point here, it’s hard to not side with waiters on this one. Do I think the tipping system should be abolished…probably. Do I think it’s ok to stiff servers if service is good….not really.
I don’t believe disagreeing with the present day tipping system really holds up as an excuse not to tip. Basically you are KNOWINGLY putting financial strain on others for no reason other than that you are in disagreement with a system that was set in place ages ago. The fact that you dine out fully KNOWING that your servers make their living off YOU (despite how much you hate it), yet choose not to tip is quite disturbing. This is not an effective way to change the system, you are still giving these businesses that practice the tipping system your money and thus supporting them.
Refusing to eat at establishments that don’t pay their employees proper wages is a much more effective way of combating this. Instead of putting the financial strain on the server, you are putting it on the business/owner, and that is the only way to successfully fight for a change…by making it hit the pockets of the people who call the shots. Maximum effect with minimum collateral damage.
The author certainly knows this would be a more effective approach for society to take as a whole to make these changes happen, but still chooses to take the selfish approach of not tipping and KNOWINGLY putting financial strain on the individuals serving him.
Whether you tip your server or go to a restaurant that charges a few more dollars for your meal in order to pay their servers more to account for no tipping, the money still ends up in the same pockets more or less. The only way it doesn’t end up there is when the author CHOOSES not to pay it.
Note the keyword “CHOOSES” which brings me to another point. You at least have the choice to tip or not depending on the quality of service. Without a tipping system there is no choice, you just pay extra for your meal regardless so that the server can be paid proper wages. This would also be less motivating for them to maintain high standards of service.
There are pro’s and con’s to both systems, and I probably side with a system not based around tipping. I just don’t agree with the authors approach for the above mentioned reasons.
In reply to Matt
The major point where I disagree with you is the idea that not tipping puts financial strain on anyone.
They are paid to do the job. If it’s a crappy wage, that’s their problem – they chose the job, they accepted that wage, and they continue to work there. That wage is, at the very least, the Federal minimum wage. This is what the job is worth. Regardless of whether you believe that minimum wage should be raised or not is beside the point – the job is by its very nature unskilled. You don’t need an education to do it. It’s compensation reflects that fact.
Either way, their job and wage is their choice, so any financial hardship is due to that choice. If you want to pass the blame on to their boss, then fine. Or legislators who don’t raise that minimum wage.
But the blame is never on the customer. The customer is not responsible for paying the server, nor how much the server gets paid.
In reply to Matt
Minimum wage is more than fair wage for a waitress. Don’t let waitresses fool you. With tipe they make at least $20-$30 an hour. Do you really think a waitress deserves to be paid more than a police officer or teacher? Even the garbage man only makes $12-$15 an hour where I live. A waitress would never make it at a regular job. They want to be able to set their own hours and make tons of money doing unskilled work. They wouldn’t last a week working fast food.
In reply to Waldo
tip*
In reply to Matt
Unskilled jobs are by nature financial hardships. Lack of skills and education equals poor pay. The waitress is paid minimum-wage. You are an idiot for thinking she deserves more. The financial strain is caused by her stupidity, nobody else is to blame.