5 reasons why I won’t tip you if you’re a waiter

It never fails to shock me how a tip is demanded in the US. People simply refuse to listen to reason when we (yes, there are others!) tell them that leaving a tip isn’t necessary. Well, I’m hoping for too much here, but if you’re a waiter, here are 5 reasons why I will try my best not to give any money to you and why the reasons for tipping are crappy.

1. You act as if you’re my best friend

Just leave me alone ok? I don’t want to bloody chit chat with you. I want food. FOOD! Get it? It’s a restaurant. I go there to eat. I go because I want either Italian food, Chinese Food or something else which I can’t get in a McDonald’s. So I come to a restaurant to fulfill my cravings for it. I will pay for what I value – food. Not you.

Christ, you offend me – kneeling down next to my table, pretending to like me and chatting as if you’re my best friend when it’s obvious that all you’re after is the tip! I’m not a bloody money bag you know. I will pay the bill which includes the cost of the food, the environment and the salaries of the people involved – nothing more.

The only way to get money out of me that I don’t have to legally pay is by prying it out of my cold dead hands…

Bottom line: I don’t want to know your name, or interact with you for any longer than I have to in order to place my order. As far as I’m concerned, you’re the equivalent of a conveyor belt that brings me my food and a computer into which I input my order. Of course, I won’t be rude. But don’t expect me to interact with you any more than I would with some stranger.

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Did you earn this tip?

 

2. You don’t get paid enough

And this is my problem how exactly? It’s astonishing that customers are expected to make up for your employer’s cheapness in not paying you a decent wage. Please include the full cost in everyone’s bill thank you very much. I’ll pay it because I have to and the charge is there for me to see.

What’s really funny here is that no one seems to criticize the employers! All criticism is reserved for non tipping customers instead of the owners of the restaurant for not paying a decent wage. Wtf! Could it possibly be because you guys know you can make much more by tips and under report your income to the IRS?

3. You’ll spit in my food if I don’t tip you?

And I’ll shoot your kid if you don’t give me a million dollars. Seriously, am I even hearing this right? You’re actually using the threat of blackmail to make me pay you? Well as long as you’re openly claiming to be a criminal it’s all right I guess.

Fortunately that’s why I prefer buffets. Listen apart from it being illegal, this shows your poor integrity. But if you spit in someone’s food because they didn’t give you money you didn’t earn, then you’re a loser and deserve to be a waiter for the rest of your life.

4. Bringing me my food isn’t worthy of being paid extra

Did you cook it? Did you invent it? No. You picked it up and brought it to me. While it might not be easy, there are plenty of jobs which are much worse – shop floor workers for example. And I’ve been a shop floor manager, so I know. Face it – compared to other jobs, being a waiter is unskilled. You get paid what the market will think your services are worth. You don’t deserve more for your work over and above what your employer should pay you.

5. Money doesn’t grow on trees

I expect you to be grateful and pray for me at night if I tip you 10%. Be happy I gave you anything at all. I worked for the money in my wallet and by giving you some I didn’t have to, I’m doing you a favor. Learn to remember that when people give you something they don’t need to, it’s a favor. You don’t complain that they didn’t give you more!

By the way, the same thing above applies to all professions that demand tips including those on cruise liners.

So now that you understand why I won’t give you money you don’t deserve, stop with the “oh how could you?” attitude. I can. And I will.

Update: Here’s a rebuttal of the many silly justifications for tipping that people have given in the comments section.

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  1. Wow. I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone sound so self-righteous about justifying being an asshole. But then again, your type of people are known to rack up huge tabs in bars and restaurants without leaving a cent for a tip, which is why I rightfully refuse to serve people like you alcohol. Dick.

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    • In reply to H

      Stop blaming customers for your shitty job and shitty pay. It’s not our responsibility to pay you, and you are already getting paid to do your job.

      Also, fun fact, the “right to refuse service” is not legal for arbitrary reasons, and not legal for any reason that AFFECTS a protected group more – not just BECAUSE of their protected status. For example, you can’t refuse service to anyone but blondes because it affects minorities disproportionately, and race is a protected group. Another example would be banning head scarves because it disproportionately affects Muslim women.

      http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/business-career/legal/refusal-service

      https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/the-right-to-refuse-service-can-a-business-refuse-service-to-someone-because-of-appearance

      Wait, what’s this? http://www.ebony.com/news-views/are-black-people-really-bad-tippers-981#axzz46yqMld1w

      So even black people admit they are bad tippers compared to others? Well damn, this means that refusing service to poor tippers disproportionately affects a protected status group! That would make it illegal – just like refusing service to non-blondes or people wearing head scarves.

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      • In reply to DRC

        lol I’m not the joke, I’m calling servers a joke, and I’m not the one having to defend being a lazy ass with no motivation in life.

        I have no reason to cry. I have friends and family who care about me and like me, my coworkers like me, I have a good job, and I earn a good amount of money. I’ve earned everything I have through hard work and dedication, and don’t have to whine about how hard my life is because I got off my ass and changed my life.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        And who are you to judge anyone else? You just proved my point about how people like you put other people down to make themselves feel good about themselves, you just said ” waiters are lazy ” . Yeah? You are saying that to make yourself feel better about yourself because you are not secure about yourself and the only way for you to feel good about yourself is to just make up shot and come on some website like this and talk shit to make yourself feel good, I feel bad for you and anyone else who is comes on this website and talks shit about people and judges people because they are insecure about themselves and this is the only way they feel good about themselves is to talk shit and judge people, which is pathetic I feel bad for people like you.

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      • In reply to DRC

        Who am I to judge? Let’s see –

        I was homeless by the he time I was 18 due to my mother’s poor decision.

        I never once begged or played the poor me card for money simply because of my status.

        I worked shitty jobs and never once whined that my boss didn’t pay me enough or that the customers didn’t give me more money for a job I was already being paid to do. I was simply grateful for the opportunity.

        When I wanted more for my kids I went to college. I had to earn my way in and had to earn scholarships to pay my way. I worked as a tutor during free hours between classes because I had my kids to take care of as a single father and I STILL never whined or asked people for money I didn’t earn.

        I worked my butt off for good grades to keep my scholarships and so that I would have something to show employers once I graduated because I simply didn’t have time for internships.

        I graduated highest honors.

        I put out my resumes, I went and sold myself to companies to get hired.

        I put in the work I was given and asked for more to make myself useful to the company I got hired for.

        I volunteer my spare time helping the homeless who actually need it. I donate money to scholarship funds for people willing to work for it.

        I can judge because I have been in their position or worse (more often worse) and not once did I settle for handouts or complain about the position I was in. I accepted that my position was a CHOICE and it was my responsibility to change it.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        You’re an idiot. Point blank period. Looking down on others for a job, shows how shitty you were raised. If you can’t afford to tip, you don’t go out and eat. That’s the bottom line. The other point to be made is that you tip people based on service. You go out to eat to get a good meal, brought to you by somebody at specific times, while tending to your drink so you don’t have to. That’s the luxury of going out to eat, the reason behind my statement that if you can’t afford to tip you stay your ass at home and do all that shit yourself. You write like the type of person that expects everything from the world but doesn’t have shit to offer because you don’t owe it to anybody else but yourself. Well sir that may be fair, but your generalization of all servers being lazy ass people with no motivation is pure stupidity and lacks foresight. Highschool, college kids juggling jobs and school. Older individuals with degrees working part time for extra money. Just know that your refusal to tip is pure bullshit and any of the reasons you have used to try and justify it are bullshit as well, but it clearly helps you sleep at night knowing you have family that loves you while you treat working people like shit. You picked apart every aspect of serving to find a justifiable reason to not tip people so that you don’t have any real reason that you should feel guilty but you’re just plain dumb. We work for you dumbass, the employer pays us a standard wage to serve YOU YOUR FOOD. We will always be grateful for people that aren’t narrow minded stuck up fuckers like you, and always weary of those like you that don’t understand that there’s no rhyme or reason for refusing to tip other than a lack of knowledge. Once again, we work for you. Your our customer we’re the ones trying to make sure you have a flawless meal and catering to your needs, you senseless individual. Grow up, might suit you well one day. Just because you think you know shit doesn’t mean your smart, you lack common sense on a very simple level and quite honestly it’s pretty sickening. Have a nice day, hope to see you sometime and make you ask for refills and where your food is, maybe then you’ll wonder why people try to talk to you when after all it’s their job.

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      • In reply to a common sense carrying person

        **”You’re an idiot. Point blank period. Looking down on others for a job, shows how shitty you were raised.”**

        Haha no, not at all. Certainly not an idiot, given my credentials, and I look down on them for their attitudes and behaviors, not their job, per se.

        **”If you can’t afford to tip, you don’t go out and eat. That’s the bottom line.”**

        Oh, we can afford to tip. Why does everyone assume we don’t tip because we can’t afford to?

        It just isn’t a requirement – it is a gratuity – something that is optional by definition and nature. There is simply no reason to tip.

        **”The other point to be made is that you tip people based on service. You go out to eat to get a good meal, brought to you by somebody at specific times, while tending to your drink so you don’t have to. That’s the luxury of going out to eat, the reason behind my statement that if you can’t afford to tip you stay your ass at home and do all that shit yourself.”**

        The server isn’t the cook – they are writing down my order and carrying the stuff to me. It is not optional – I have no choice in whether they take my order or not, nor am I allowed to get my own food.

        The service is provided by the restaurant. Servers are the employee of the restaurant. It’s the entire reason they are there.

        They are not my employee. It is not my responsibility to pay them. They are paid minimum wage to do their job by law.

        **”You write like the type of person that expects everything from the world but doesn’t have shit to offer because you don’t owe it to anybody else but yourself.”**

        I’m starting to think you replied to the wrong person, because I do all sorts of volunteer work and donate money and all sorts of things.

        I certainly have ‘shit to offer,’ and I provide it to people who actually deserve it.

        **”Well sir that may be fair, but your generalization of all servers being lazy ass people with no motivation is pure stupidity and lacks foresight.”**

        lol Now I’m convinced that you don’t even know what you’re saying and just repeating words you’ve heard. I’m going to assume you haven’t bothered to read through all, or even most, of my comments here and note that I (and others) have indicated that serving is a job for students (high school or college) to earn a little extra money. The people we refer to as lazy are people trying to make a living at it. This is true of any job that pays minimum wage.

        It most definitely is lazy to try to live off of minimum wage and whine about it instead of doing something about it.

        **”Highschool, college kids juggling jobs and school. Older individuals with degrees working part time for extra money.”**

        If they are older and have degrees already, and need to work as a server to earn “extra” money, they have made poor life choices. Don’t choose a major that won’t result in a job that pays enough to support yourself and/or your planned family. It sounds like those people are the ones lacking foresight.

        And, again, they are being paid. It’s not my responsibility to pay them.

        **”Just know that your refusal to tip is pure bullshit and any of the reasons you have used to try and justify it are bullshit as well, but it clearly helps you sleep at night knowing you have family that loves you while you treat working people like shit.”**

        Haha! Not one person has been able to offer a valid reason for tipping. Servers are already paid to do their job. Period. Tipping is, by its very definition, optional. Period. The fact that they are paid only minimum wage is because they chose to work there. Period.

        **”You picked apart every aspect of serving to find a justifiable reason to not tip people so that you don’t have any real reason that you should feel guilty but you’re just plain dumb. We work for you dumbass, the employer pays us a standard wage to serve YOU YOUR FOOD.”***

        You just lied and contradicted yourself.

        First, you don’t work for me, you work for the restaurant. You do not have an employment contract with me, you have one with the restaurant.

        Second, you state, as we point out, that servers are paid to serve the customer. It is the job they are paid to do, and they are paid to do it!

        **”We will always be grateful for people that aren’t narrow minded stuck up fuckers like you, and always weary of those like you that don’t understand that there’s no rhyme or reason for refusing to tip other than a lack of knowledge.”**

        I’m neither narrow minded, nor do I lack knkwledge. You’ve spent this entire time ranting without even offering a valid reason to tip
        Doing their job they are hired to do is not a justifiable reason to tip them. Their poor life choices is no reason to tip them. Their decision to continue working there despite shitty pay is no reason to tip them. AMD it certainly isn’t the difficulty of the job, which (as we’ve repeatedly pointed out) we have performed in some way and can verify it is not hard at all, no matter how much people try to pretend it is.

        **”Once again, we work for you.”**

        No, you don’t.

        **”Your our customer we’re the ones trying to make sure you have a flawless meal and catering to your needs, you senseless individual.”**

        No, we are the restaurant’s customer. You serve us because that is what they pay you to do.

        Also, don’t call somebody senseless in the same sentence you use the wrong you’re/your.

        **”Grow up, might suit you well one day.”**

        I am a grown up, thank you. Perhaps you should try it and understand that grown ups don’t expect to get things they haven’t earned just for doing what they are already paid to do.

        **”Just because you think you know shit doesn’t mean your smart, you lack common sense on a very simple level and quite honestly it’s pretty sickening.”**

        Ffs it’s “you’re,” and I don’t lack common sense. Common sense says if you want something you earn it – something you don’t seem to understand.

        **”Have a nice day, hope to see you sometime and make you ask for refills and where your food is, maybe then you’ll wonder why people try to talk to you when after all it’s their job.”**

        Okay, so clearly your grammar broke down toward the end, did you stop trying to seem intelligent?

        Also, I’m not bhagwad. I would almost think you were replying to my comment instead of just making your own like a fucking moron, except you made some statements that seem to relate specifically to things I’ve said.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        Wait, wait, wait!!! So you are saying that because I choose to work a second job as a server to support my family while my husband is in school, I am lazy!? I am a loan officer at a bank and where I live, serving jobs are plentiful. I don’t really understand how working a second job means I am lazy and made poor life decisions. I see it as a way to support my family. Yeah, you are being narrow minded because you making these mind numbing generalizations without showing any empathy. Have you ever served? Do you know what it is like? When you don’t tip you are taking away from someone’s family and their pocket. Did you know that we have to tip out. Yeah didn’t see that in your stupid rant! So when you don’t tip, I pay you to sit there and enjoy your food and drinks. Regardless of your generalization that all servers are lazy, I am pretty competent and have an impeccable sense of urgency. Therefore, as you are sitting there enjoying your incredible food/ drink and having me cater to whatever need you may have at the moment, I am paying you to do so!!! There is no way to talk yourself out of this ridiculous opinion and justify yourself. No matter how you spin it, you are being a prick. I don’t give a damn how much charity you do or if you have friends. This opinion is inately who you are and the consensus from the general public is you’re a shit.

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      • In reply to NE

        **”Wait, wait, wait!!! So you are saying that because I choose to work a second job as a server to support my family while my husband is in school, I am lazy!? I am a loan officer at a bank and where I live, serving jobs are plentiful. I don’t really understand how working a second job means I am lazy and made poor life decisions. I see it as a way to support my family.”**

        Yeah, you’re full of crap. The median income for a loan officer is $62,620.

        http://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/loan-officer

        If you make less than that, it means you made a poor decision to accept a salary worth lower than what the job pays – especially if you have to work a serving job to make up for it. If that doesn’t support your family, you make poor decisions with money. This includes not having the money saved to support your husband going to school.

        **”Yeah, you are being narrow minded because you making these mind numbing generalizations without showing any empathy. Have you ever served? Do you know what it is like?”**

        Yep, I’ve served, so has $Bill. I know lots of people who have. Easiest job most people have ever had.

        **”When you don’t tip you are taking away from someone’s family and their pocket.”**

        No, I’m not. I’m just not giving them money they haven’t earned.

        **”Did you know that we have to tip out. Yeah didn’t see that in your stupid rant! So when you don’t tip, I pay you to sit there and enjoy your food and drinks.”**

        Clearly you haven’t read all my comments, because I’ve covered it pretty well. I pay for my drinks. It’s part of my bill.

        Fun fact – tipping out is only legal if those participating in the tip pool (which it’s called) also earn tips. If the tip pool involves anyone who does not earn tips, the employer may not claim the tip credit. In other words, if anyone who doesn’t actually contribute to the tip pool receives money from it, your employer can’t legally make the base pay less than the minimum wage. In addition, tipping out cannot reduce your income (including both hourly pay and tips) to below the minimum wage.

        https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs15.pdf

        **”Regardless of your generalization that all servers are lazy, I am pretty competent and have an impeccable sense of urgency.”**

        Impeccable sense of urgency? You have a blameless sense of how much things need immediate attention? I get the feeling that the words you chose don’t really describe what you’re intending to say.

        **”Therefore, as you are sitting there enjoying your incredible food/ drink and having me cater to whatever need you may have at the moment, I am paying you to do so!!!”**

        This doesn’t follow logically. You are neither giving me money, nor paying my bill. You are, in no way, pay me, or paying for me, to eat my food.

        What you, at best, are describing is paying others for your “right” to do your job. These are the terms you accepted to work under. There is no guarantee of tips – they are, by definition, gratuity and optional.

        **”There is no way to talk yourself out of this ridiculous opinion and justify yourself. No matter how you spin it, you are being a prick. I don’t give a damn how much charity you do or if you have friends. This opinion is inately who you are and the consensus from the general public is you’re a shit.”**

        Again, what you’re saying doesn’t make sense. To “talk [myself] out of” an opinion is to convince **myself** otherwise. I am guessing you meant only the latter part, which is to say I can’t justify my ‘opinion,’ yet I just did.

        To add, I’ll point out I’m not your employer, I didn’t choose your job, and it’s not my responsibility to pay you. It is only the responsibility of your employer to ensure you are paid for the work you do for them. You made the choice to work there and you made the choice to accept the terms of your employment – which do not, and cannot, guarantee tips. A job that you legally make minimum wage at, regardless of tipping out or whether you make tips at all. Again, this is the LAW. If your employer is not following the law, it’s not the customer’s problem, nor responsibility to do something about it. It’s up to you.

        You have not, in any way, justified tipping. All you’ve done is whine about circumstances resulting from your decisions, blame the customer for your shitty wage when you should be blaming yourself or your employer, and imply that it somehow justifies giving you money you haven’t earned for a job you’re already paid to do.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        Servers are paid minimum wage simply to bring you your food. If you expect good service then that is extra. Instead of complaining about poor service that you don’t pay for anyways why don’t you speak your mind to your server BEFORE they take your order and let them know you don’t tip so that they can give you “minimum wage” service! ;-)

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      • In reply to What a joke

        I work my butt off serving & it’s how I’m paying my own way through college. Luckily, I don’t deal with many people like you so this article is irrelevant to me really because people do tip. I make a lot of money serving & am happy to do so while in school. You just feel entitled to being a jerk, so good for you, thank god most people don’t think like you or I might be out of a job. Haha

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      • In reply to Cheyenne

        I’m not a jerk. I earned my job through hard work and dedication. I earn the money I make as a result of that. It does not make me a jerk to refuse to pay servers money that they haven’t earned for doing a job they are already paid to do. Any person who would do such a thing is an idiot, and the fact that you would even consider me a jerk for refusing to just shows how entitled your attitude is.

        Good luck with college and finding a job afterward. Hopefully you picked a major that will actually result in a job for you.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        Lol I am in nursing school. So yes, it will. Like I said before, happy I don’t have to deal with many like you. It makes no difference to me whether you tip or not because others do. Keep making your argument. Also, how are you not a jerk with the reply you just sent me? Read through all your replies & tell me you’re not, it’s almost comedic you don’t think so! Hahah

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      • In reply to Cheyenne

        I’m sorry if you don’t like facts, but I even wished you good luck with school?

        Have you read through my replies? Have you noted that I volunteer with the homeless? That I donate to scholarship funds so that the underprivileged can focus on school and not have to devote so much time to trying to work on top of it? I also go out of my way to do special things for and with people I’m close to just to make them happy.

        The fact that I can’t justify giving somebody unearned money doesn’t make me any more of a jerk than it makes you a jerk for not tipping your cashier at the grocery store.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        I can see your side of it. But at least your cashier at the grocery store gets paid minimum wage. I get paid $2.13 an hour. I don’t get paychecks because that wage covers taxes. You’re not required to tip & i’m not on my hands & knees begging for you to do so. People know what you do when you go out to eat, you tip, it’s just what you do in our culture. But how about we do away with servers & guests can get there own drinks & maybe all restaurants could be a buffet of self served food like a fast food chain. Maybe that would be more like it for you? How about only restaurants that require gratuity have servers & give an enjoyable, quality dining experience. I think that’s the difference between fast food & a restaurant. So be that one person who doesn’t tip when you have a nice dinner out, that your server has worked so hard for you to have. To make sure you have a full drink at all times, to make sure your food gets out in a timely manner, to make sure your check is delivered when you’re ready for it. Or do you want the cooks to deliver your food for you ? But maybe they’re a little busy cooking. So maybe your food should just sit in the back & get cold because your server doesn’t care about serving you just as much as you don’t care about tipping them. If everyone “tipped” like you I wouldnt give a care in the world if you got your food, drinks or Bill. It’s not my restaurant why should I care?? But for some strange reason people go out to eat, I give great service, guests get everything they need, people TIP, & there’s no problem. So what’s yours??

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      • In reply to Cheyenne

        You’re mistaken. Servers make at least minimum wage – it’s Federal law. Now, tips count as wage, and the reduction of your paycheck (before taxes) is the tip credit. There are plenty of circumstances where the tip credit cannot legally be taken out, like when the boss makes you tip out to staff who don’t also earn tips. The law specifically requires that the employer makes up the difference if the employee does not make enough in tips plus their wage to equal the minimum wage before taxes.

        https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm

        If a server’s employer is not following the law, this is not the customer’s responsibility. In fact, the idea that this whole system has somehow pushed the blame onto the customer is disgusting. This is a matter for employers and employees.

        All of the things you described are in the job description. They are what you are employed to do by the restaurant.

        Also, as far as America goes, there is no required gratuity. Even if it’s listed as such on the check, it is not legally binding. There are people who have refused to pay it and the judge has thrown it out.

        There ARE other countries where a service charge is included by law. I was just in one, actually. However, contrary to popular belief, this is not a mandatory tip. It is money that goes to the restaurant and they use it in PART to pay the service staff their salary. This might sound nice, but what people forget about salary is it just means overtime exempt. You are usually required to put in a minimum number of hours, but you do NOT get overtime.

        I will tell you this, though. The service is a hell of a lot better in even the crappy restaurants in these countries than it is in the US at some of the nicer places.

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      • In reply to DRC

        Wow, DRC, that’s a good one! You’re so witty and clever! I’m so sad now that I’ll have to wipe my tears with this money I actually earned instead of begged off of strangers for a job I was already being paid for. ?

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      • In reply to What a joke

        I work in a family owned restaurant and I’m not on the payroll, so I get paid cash salary under the table PLUS cash tips, so I don’t pay taxes on any of it. Jokes on you

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      • In reply to Brian

        lol Even more reason not to tip. Tax fraud is pretty common among servers, even if it’s often simply due to ignorance. That isn’t a dig, btw, I simply have met a good number of servers who don’t understand that tips are to be taxed.

        It’s something I’ll point out to my congressman when they start considering legal bans on tipping, which I imagine should be (relatively) soon given the restaurant groups are already starting to ban it.
        http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/15/the-end-of-tipping-in-new-york-top-restaurant-group-bans-gratuities

        http://time.com/money/4046887/restaurants-no-tipping-ban/

        As more and more restaurants ban tipping, the ones that don’t will have a hard time keeping up, and even people will assume that they don’t need to tip, just like most of the world.

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      • In reply to Brian

        Jokes on you stupid. If you get hurt you can’t collect Worker’s Comp. you’re on your own. Your medical bills are going to be a serious problem for you. This is what happens when you don’t pay your fair share of taxes

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      • In reply to N E

        If you believe I have poor grammar, I’d have to say it’s more likely than not that yours is so bad that you simply don’t know proper grammar when you see it.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        It doesn’t matter, I regularly treat minorities like shit because they’re bad tippers. Do something about it lol! Also, if you don’t like tipping then stop paying into welfare. Your money is going to people you perceive as being losers either way, so there’s no need for non-tippers to pay their welfare share when they file their W4, just under report the amount.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        I will say, though, that your perspective on it adds an additional reason not to tip – if I’m already paying a welfare tax, why the hell should I give them money on top of it?

        Also, I’m glad you can admit to what a terrible person you are with your racism. It certainly shows that people who expect tips are worse than the people who don’t.

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      • In reply to Bollywood headscarf

        Ecept welfare programs aren’t paying people to do a job they are already being paid to do, and are limited, most commonly in time and scope, and generally people on welfare actually have a reasonable reason for it. Unless you’re disabled, it’s always temporary.

        Servers, on the other hand, are able-bodied people who expect more money from the customers instead of their employers, for a job they are already paid to do, that isn’t worth more than they are paid to do it.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        There’s good lawyers who are pricey and bad lawyers who are cheap. You’re comparing waffle waitresses with upscale servers, like myself who work in the yuppy part of Chicago, on a rooftop restaurant in an elegant setting. Etiquette training is required and is a skill set (I know that first hand because nobody else I’ve ever met has proper etiquette) I get paid handsomely, there’s absolutely no reason why I would quit and look for something else! No chance in Hell, and you better believe I can support my family on what I make.

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      • In reply to Sebastian

        Except even the “waffle house” level servers in Europe and Asia still provide better service than the fanciest, hoity-toity level servers in the US for no tips. And they’re still not making much above minimum wage, plus they’re paid on salary which means no overtime.

        However, your point accentuates mine. Restaurants can pay you a reasonable wage, they just generally don’t. Even the waffle house can afford a minimum wage (in fact they legally have to be able to). Pushing the financial responsibility onto the customer is BS.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        Wow! Seems like you really enjoy being a complete asshole. I can’t believe the amount of asshole replies you made on this post. Why are you so angry at the world? Did your wife leave you or something or do you have a job where you get shit on everyday? You claim that you worked your way up from a shitty existence but it seems like your existence is still a miserable one. Is this what you use Facebook for? To shit on people that did absolutely nothing to you? You must have a really hard time making friends or keeping relationships for that matter. Anyway I enjoyed reading your 3 of your asshole comments but had to stop when I realized they just keep reiterating themselves. Life is good, people are good, enjoy your stay on earth. Stop doing whatever drugs your on or go to an anger management class. It might help your needless anger. It takes a lot of effort to hate. Trust me you’ll feel better and you might actually start tipping waiters lol.

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      • In reply to Joey badass

        You’re funny, man! lol

        I’m not an asshole, I’m rather well liked in my community. Nor am I angry at the world. The fact that I believe people should actually earn the money they are given does not make me an asshole, nor does stating it imply that I am angry at the world.

        If you actually read through my comments, you’d probably know that. It’s the servers commenting with hate and vitriol toward anyone who thinks they shouldn’t expect money they haven’t actually earned from people who aren’t their employer. It’s the servers commenting with the threats and insults. It’s the servers whining about how hard it is to live in the world.

        Myself? I live a pretty happy life that I’ve thoroughly earned through my own hard work.

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      • In reply to Sebastian

        There is no such thing as an upscale server. Just an unskilled server working in an upscale restaurant. I hope this clarifies it for you.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        $Bill sounds like one of those clowns with a stick up their ass who didn’t get enough love from his mom when he was a child.

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  2. Wow!! If you don’t want to tip than don’t. It’s certainly not going to make a server more rich or more poor because you came in to get waited on and you didn’t tip. There are many generous tippers who do appreciate excellent service and will let you know. Keep your money and move on. Wow! So much talking down on servers . You don’t know their lives or why they are working as servers. No one should act like they are above others.

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    • In reply to Lola

      So you want to be a server?
      If you are a teen this is a job for you. This unskilled job is only intended to provide extra spending money not to support an adult or family.

      If you are an adult and you do this for a living:
      That would mean you are lazy, uneducated, and have no ambition. You live a very poor life, and beg for the kindness of others to pay your bills. You are a pathetic adult that is not capable of holding a real job.

      This is the life of the server, and why they beneath all others.

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      • In reply to Jordan

        As a teenager I was a server at an exclusive restaurant. It was the easiest, stress-free, most simple brain dead job I ever had.

        As an adult if you find serving to be stressful or difficult, you have to be retarded or very lazy and simple. The physical activity of this job is on the low-end of the scale.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        And you sir are an arrogant, pompous ass. There are so many reasons a person may be a server and you, sir, have no right to judge others. Having working the service industry for a number of years, I can tell you, it’s not a job for a lazy person. There are no scheduled breaks and sometimes no scheduled lunches as employers usually give out short shifts or late night shifts so they don’t have to. Constantly running around making sure everyone’s dinning experience is a very good one, dealing with arrogant pompous customers like yourself, dealing with the lack of respect from many, is a busy, sometimes hectic job that is not for the lazy or uneducated. Maybe you should give it a try for a couple of weeks and see how well you deal with no standard breaks, barley any time to go to the bathroom, rude, condescending guests, people who believe you are beneath them, and then let me know how you feel. Don’t get me wrong, I love people and enjoyed every minute of my days as a server because I worked very hard to put a smile on my face every shift, treat you with respect even you don’t reciprocate the courtesy, because that is the right thing to do in the job.

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  3. People like this are very insecure about themselves,they need to make themselves feel empowered somehow inside they are very insecure, they will find something to complain about and put people down so it makes themselves feel good about themselves, but it is obvious people who are like this are very insecure and they do not like themselves at all, it is obvious and I feel bad for you, like people who are assholes they are very unhappy with themselves so they have to put other people down in order to feel good about themselves, it is very obvious and anyone with a brain knows this, people who complain and have a stick up there ass, makes themselves look pathetic and insecure, I feel bad for people like this.

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    • In reply to DRC

      Ah, yes, except we know that the psychological profile of successful people includes confidence, where people who are insecure tend to need to say ridiculous crap to make themselves feel better about their shitty lives, like when a janitor refers to himself as a custodial engineer, or a server acts as if their job is hard when it is no harder than any other job, and easier than most.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        Well that explains a lot, are you trying to make yourself look like a clown? Because it is very obvious at this point from the things you say that you are very very unhappy and insecure with yourself. You make judgements about people thinking that will make you feel good about you self? That is pathetic, I really hope you realize how much of a pathetic and sad person you sound like you are. You are a ass hat, people like you are pathetic there is a reason why your single and there is a reason why nobody likes you besides your mom, there is a reason why your on here talking shit and making yourself look like a clown.

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      • In reply to DRC

        I am married and have two children that graduated from Ivy League Colleges. I own a very successful business that will have an IPO in the near future.

        You are a loser waiter. You are nothing and will always be nothing. Do your parents a favor and move out of their basement.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        I just don’t like men that act like teenage girls and talk shit onine to make themselves feel good about themselves, pathetic, do you sit on here all day? How old are you? And your on the Internet talking shot and making judgements? I feel bad for your wife and kids, I’m sure they feel bad for you as well.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        Sorry to break it to you but money and your job does not define who you are. Your behavior and treatment of others defines who you are. If you think those things define you then you need to re-evaluate your life. People will not remember where you worked or how much money you had when you die, but they will definitely remember how you treated them and what kind of person your were to yourself and others.

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      • In reply to Wendy

        So what does the fact that you expect people to pay people their hard earned money to servers already being paid to do their job say about you?

        What would you think of a cable installer who threatened to shut off your services if you didn’t give them am extra 20% of your cable bill just for doing their job?

        What would you think of a cashier at a store bad-mouthing you for not giving them an extra 15% just for ringing up your groceries?

        You extortionists with your demand for money that you haven’t earned and threats of food contamination or even bodily harm (seriously, go look at the comments servers have left) if you don’t get it.

        Good people certainly don’t demand what servers demand in America. They don’t blame the customers for their shitty choice in job kr their shitty pay from their shitty pay from their shitty boss.

        So what does that make you?

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      • In reply to What a joke

        Ok just a few questions. How old are you? Do you live alone? Do you have a girlfriend? Are you married? Do you talk to girls or are you still a virgin?

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      • In reply to $Bill

        you do not know anything about me so you jus make things up? Your 50 years old and your on the Internet talking shit and judging people, what are you a teenage girl? I honestly don’t believe a word you say, there is no way you are a father, you are too pathetic and insecure and useless which is obvious, to actually raise children, if you are, I feel really bad for your kids, and I feel worse for your wife. My god I can’t imagine, I feel terrible for your wife and kids to have a pathetic useless father who is insecure about himself, it is obvious we both know it, everyone knows how pathetic you are and everyone feels bad for your children and your wife.

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      • In reply to DRC

        Again, you are accusing a person of insecurities who has no reason to have them.

        It’s funny because you are doing exactly what you are accusing us of and trying to tear us down. We don’t need to tear you down to feel better about ourselves, we are already successful. But look at you – having not accomplished anything real in your life. You have not, by definition of the term, achieved any success, yet you are trying to tear down those who have. Seems like you’re the insecure one trying to make yourself feel better about your shitty life by refusing to accept that we have happy lives with our success.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        Lol $bill and what a joke I love you two fucking nailed it when it comes to servers and drc is really showing you what a server is capable of, nothing. Bitchy whiny asshole who write and walk food to the table. My classic example have 2 resturant 1 with cooks 1 with servers see which one lasts longer, the severs will be surprised when there’s no one to tip them

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  4. You’ve learned to make money ,sir so you should try harder as well to
    learn about this thing called GIVING.They are not going to stab your
    back in return,unless you’re dealing with bad person.

    My mom passed away when I was 13, I don’t have a father or any relative. I’ve never beg anyone for money because there was no one around.Sometime life can be hard on you like a mother&*+;!#!.
    I used to think like you until I realized giving suppose to exist when
    you are alive among other human beings.Don’ t treat others like the way you’ve learned! You were not by yourself , I was.

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    • In reply to No oner

      My dad hung himself when I was an infant. I was homeless by the time I was 18. I personally earned everything I have from that point.

      I give by volunteering my time to homeless shelters and donating money to scholarship funds.

      However, this does not mean that servers should be given money for doing the job they are already being paid to do. In fact – there is honestly no reason to pity them. By working as servers, they are providing themselves able-bodied. There is no legitimate excuse for them. They are responsible for their own choices in life – including employer.

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  5. Hopefully that you are going to spend time helping homeless youngsters so they will not miss direction in life like me.
    Being a life guide in this blog is not enough,sir.
    What you are doing here is some kind of eye opening guide.
    It helps pushing people to try harder not to stay in servers job,that’s all. Nice talking to you.

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    • In reply to cockadoodledoo

      It’s called the SERVICE industry for a reason, Not the act like a miserable prick and take it out on the tables you are serving industry. If I hav even mediocre service I will always leave a healthy tip, but if someone is being a douche, No, I wont be leaving them even the change in my pocket.

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      • In reply to Massey

        People who tip are foolish and retarded. Servers are getting paid at least minimum wage to do simple work. I don’t care if I get excellent service and have 15 refills, you still get no tip from me. It’s your boss’s responsibility, not mine.

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      • In reply to NoTipSkip

        No,I won’t do that,thank you.
        There’s no reason to disturb any well being like the way
        you are.I ‘ll let you have your rightious while you let me have mine.If you strongly believe your right ,why should I
        argue about it?I have right to walk in any restaurant just to hand 100 dollars to any wait staff and moonwalk myself out.
        Have fun with your 15-30 refills, I don’t care.

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      • In reply to Massey

        If you want to blame somebody blame yourself. You took this simple low-paying job, that’s not my problem. Paying you extra money for doing your job is ridiculous. Expecting me to tip you is very funny. Just waiting on me is a great honor for you. It is a brush of greatness for you.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        Waiting on you is such great honor ,I will tip you 100 dollars
        in cash .Because my basic knowledgment is 100 times stronger than yours.My foundation is diamond solid type.
        Your judgment is plane selfish simple.
        Pile of shit paved with gold you are ,valuabe only on the surface.Do whatever works for you.I don’t care,my-insight is not full of shit.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        Keep not tipping so servers and restraunt owners know who you are and give you appropriate service. Better yet, announce your strong views to the restraunt staff immediatly. I bet that as strong as you claim your views may be you wouldn’t do that because, when it comes down to it you want 5-Star service without having to go to McDizzles. When it really comes down to it you want something for nothing!
        #stopbeingahypocrite

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      • In reply to Fair is fair

        Turn the tables on that. Since tipping is never a requirement, and most of the world tips pocket change, if anything, and nobody expects it, the better suggestion is to have servers demand a tip before they will do their job

        Let’s see how long they keep their jobs.

        Oh, and it’s actually a pretty popular view that tipping is bullshit, on both sides of the political spectrum. The majority of people who do tip only do so because they are terrified of the crap servers threaten or do if they don’t get a tip. It’s extortion, you know.

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  6. Honestly I used to love being a server at first. For one thing; I just love food. Another reason was because I love talking with people and hearing a small piece of their lives. Idk if that makes sense but I just loved it. It was good for me because I am still finishing school. Unfortunately I had to quit serving because all my coworkers were seriously so entitled. I used to be all about that server life and looking out for one another but I can’t do it anymore. The average server makes over minimum wage and yet they still keep saying they don’t. Like hello I have the same job as you so I know we made over minimum. Another thing my coworkers were just disrespectful to most guests. Would talk shit about them for asking for things like extra ranch, and just other small accommodations etc etc. it was so bad I couldn’t do it anymore. Although I will still probably always continue to tip when I go out (if they earn it)… I do agree with most other points. The job is easy, MOST people can do it, your already getting paid an hourly wage and your even lucky enough to work a job where tipping is norm so you make way more on average! Be greatful for that!! Anyways my eyes have been opened now after years in the service industry, there are very few decent servers out there now a days. Sometimes I miss it, but I found another job where I can talk to people and help them in other ways, and I love it! I became a financial advisor. Serving is a great job, but there are virtually no great servers left anymore. End rant from a disappointed ex server who was pushed away from others in the industry.

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    • In reply to Emily

      Congratulations on leaving such a silly job behind. Minimum-wage jobs were never meant to support a family. They are there for a little extra cash or spending money.
      Ideally it’s a good first job for a teenager. It would give them a good incentive to go to college. The thought of having such a ridiculous job makes you want to improve yourself.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        Also, being a server for so long actually helped me get my job now. They said they chose me over 3 others for the position simply because of my love of serving others and my passion for making others happy. So I guess it wasn’t a complete waste of time

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      • In reply to Emily

        And I wasn’t trying to say serving was a silly job. I was saying that it was a great job for me but all the other servers I worked with ruined it because they are so unappreciative/entitled/lazy/disrespectful. Show me a server with a passion for food and hospitality and I will tip the shit out of them. You just don’t see a passion for food service anymore which is quite sad.

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      • In reply to Emily

        I’m confused. You say it is your serving job that helped you get your new job, but it just sounds like personality to me. You just discussed how other servers didn’t have your attitude.

        Having some work experience might benefit you (which is the point of minimum wage jobs, really), but what you’re saying is more like your attitude about your prior job benefitted you, and not the job itself.

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      • In reply to Emily

        You are extremely wishy-washy. On one hand you bash servers, on the other you think they’re wonderful. You are the definition of dumb bitch..

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      • In reply to $Bill

        Lol what? Yeah I’m pretty wishy-washy but I’m not a dumb bitch… I handle people’s finances. Your just mad cuz I don’t agree with everything you say even though I agree with most of it. I hate entitled servers. But you simply can’t lump all of them into that category. Some actually have a passion for what they do and have great work ethic. All I’m saying is I wish more servers had that attitude and appreciation for where their money comes from. No need to be so hostile to me. Not everyone in this post is picking a fight with you. I just wanted other servers who are being hostile and unreasonable to see my post so they can understand from the view point of someone who was also in the service industry for a long time

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      • In reply to Emily

        Food is that better?
        Not trying picking a fight with you. You are so inconsistent nobody knows what you’re talking about

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      • In reply to $Bill

        I’m not trying to pick a fight with anyone either! Im sorry I’ve confused you somehow. You did kinda pop off and call me a dumb bitch even though I agree with most your points. Oh well can’t please everyone. I just hope another server reads my post and decides to fix their shitty attitude. That’s all sorry for ranting and making it confusing.

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      • In reply to NoTipSkip

        Lol I said I love food one time. Go back and read shit for brains. I said I wanted others in the service industry to have a love of food as well.

        Captains log, day 597: it’s just as I have expected…. Whatajoke seems to be the only other sign of intelligent life on this crazy thread. Haha just a joke… Since apparently no one can have their own opinion without getting their balls busted :p

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      • In reply to Emily

        This thread is not based on opinion it is based on fact. Waitresses really make minimum-wage, and are not the employees of the customers that come in to dine at the restaurant. Customers are not responsible for paying the wage of the waitress.

        The second that you said this thread was based on opinion, reaffirmed the fact you really are dumb bitch

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      • In reply to $Bill

        Gee, I must have forgotten the part where I said any of that stuff wasn’t true? Lol you are dumb as hell. Like I said numerous times before, I agree with all those things I was just voicing my opinion in a comment which I am perfectly able to do. Cuz ya know it’s the Internet and people are allowed to put their opinions wherever they want.

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      • In reply to Emily

        How do I come to this conclusion? Let me break it down for you so you can understand, I’ll go slow so you can process what im typing: not once did I say this post was opinion based. Like I said oh I don’t know maybe 6 times… All the facts are correct and I AGREE with them. The only thing I’m saying opinion based is that servers would be better if they had a better attitude and a passion for what they do. Hopefully that wasn’t too complicated for you to understand my good sir :)

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      • In reply to Emily

        I was just voicing my opinion in a comment which I am perfectly able to do. Cuz ya know it’s the Internet and people are allowed to put their opinions wherever they want.

        That is a direct quote from you. DUMB BITCH

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      • In reply to $Bill

        Aww still having trouble reading I see? It’s okay Hun my post was never meant for you at all anyways so you can stop responding now if your too confused. I don’t want you to hurt yourself

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  7. 1. “You act as if you’re my best friend.” I’m just a friendly person in general. Once someone is short or rude with me though I do stop going to their table except for refills or to bring their food, etc. Yeah, servers are supposed to be nice and check on tables and some places even require them to say certain things (where I work the company actually sends secret shoppers or whatever to grade us.) But then again, being nice is how I was raised.

    2. “You don’t get paid enough.”
    Technically, yes we do. Yeah server pay is $2.13 an hour but after tips I typically average between $13 and $16 per hour. On great nights I could even make up to $20 or more an hour.
    I was a manager at a grocery store before my serving job and I can make in two days now what I made in 40 hours as a manager. So that’s why I chose serving. Less or equal hours + less stress = more money and more time for school work. And I do claim everything because of having a house. (You have to have documented proof that you make a certain amount more than the rent due each month) but no, not every server claims all they make.

    3. I have a fear of people spitting in my own food, I definitely wouldn’t do it to someone elses. And if I heard someone I work with say it, or actually do it, I would probably have to find another job. That’s just gross.

    4. “Bringing me my food isn’t worthy of being paid extra.”
    No, it’s not. It’s just that a lot of people want one thing here and one thing there every 5 minutes and it just gets kind of annoying. But it’s working in customer service.

    5. “Money doesn’t grow on trees.”
    I don’t get mad anymore when people don’t tip. (Yes, I used to.) Of course I love it and am thankful when they do, but as long as you’re nice and don’t leave a huge mess when you leave, then it’s fine. Because yes, when I claim my tips at the end of the night if my tips are less than hourly minimum wage should be then the system let’s me know and I am compensated. (But it all goes to taxes since I make well over that most other nights, which is still fine.)

    We have A LOT of indians come into the restaurant I work at and yeah, a lot of the servers will crack jokes or TRY to refuse the table (which is stupid because they say you’ll be fired for refusing tables but so far I haven’t seen it happen.) It’s not the ethnicity or culture of the person or party that I hate or get upset about, it’s the attitude. And I must say that, in my area at least, that indians are among the rudest. HOWEVER, some of my nicest tables have been indians as well.

    To sum this all up, serving is easy. It’s a job, not a career. (At least it shouldn’t be a career.) We get paid well over minimum wage, which is why every server anywhere does serving at all. (Disagree with me on that one, please.) Rude people are everywhere. “Non-tippers” are everywhere. They come in all shapes, sizes, races, colors, personalties, etc. Hell, I don’t even tip sometimes.
    Stop blaming everyone else for your problems and grow up. You don’t like serving and what comes along with it? Get a different job. It’s literally that simple.

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      • In reply to Emily

        I wouldn’t necessarily agree, Emily. He did say, “Yeah server pay is $2.13 an hour but after tips…” I think $Bill was just pointing out that without tips, servers still make minimum wage, legally speaking.

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      • In reply to Emily

        Have you seen the comments, though? lol Every other comment is, “But servers don’t make minimum wage, they only make $2.13 an hour!”

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      • In reply to What a joke

        I have! And in my post I also acknowledged that this wasn’t true. Yet he still went off and called a dumb bitch for what I’m stil not sure. Like why be a dick to former servers who are proving all your points? I don’t get it at all. I was trying to be on his side but he clearly can’t read and just thinks everyone sucks but him.

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      • In reply to Emily

        But in terms of Serving101 here, who made a statement that server pay is $2.13. $Bill was just correcting that technically base pay is minimum wage, either way.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        It’s kind of pointless to say that when he goes on to say but with tips I make more of an hourly wage. This person is smart enough to know that. Unlike over half the other servers annoyingly saying that who genuinely don’t even understand how or what they are being paid. Now that’s ignorant.

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      • In reply to Emily

        I disagree. Regardless of whether the person acknowledges that WITH tips they make more, somebody inevitably comes along and says, “But if I don’t make tips…!” The important thing to remember is that the discussion isn’t necessarily between just those commenting, but is also read by any number of people who don’t comment.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        I understand what your saying when you put it that way. I just think it’s also unfair to lump others in the same category of uneducated servers who are probably in their early 20s who don’t understand how they are getting paid. I used to hear it all the time when I was a server and it drove me crazy. You are right though, they genuinely don’t understand how and why a server gets pAid what they do and it is frustrating to hear it over and over again. When you work a job, it is your responsibility to keep track of how much you get paid. Most servers are just young and ignorant to the fact that it is their responsibility and their responsibility alone to manage their finances.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        I go by what is on my check stub each week which says hourly pay $2.13.
        Then it breaks down each days hours and pay (by the 2.13) and also what my tips were for that day. If, and only if, I didn’t make enough in tips that day to cover what i should have made per hour for the $7.25 minimum wage then I would be compensated. But chances are that I made well over that every other day so it averages out to well over $7.25 so when I get my check stub it still has “this is not a check” printed across it because it all goes to taxes since I make so much in tips on the other days of the pay period.
        I’ve only ever “not made enough,” or however you want to say it, once that I can remember.

        So yes, sever pay is technically $2.13/hour, but unless you work at a shitty place then we definitly make more than that and if not then we are compensated.

        I’m only stating it that way because the ignorant servers out there say “I only make $2.13 an hour, blah blah blah.” When in a way yeah that’s right, but we are always compensated, or should be at least, by the employer to at least the minimum wage pay.
        That’s going to be the only way to get your point across on the whole base pay bull, because in their minds they’re only making $2.13 an hour and they don’t consider the tips they make as part of their pay. (I’m assuming that at least.)

        Also, I’m a she, not a he. Js.

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