It never fails to shock me how a tip is demanded in the US. People simply refuse to listen to reason when we (yes, there are others!) tell them that leaving a tip isn’t necessary. Well, I’m hoping for too much here, but if you’re a waiter, here are 5 reasons why I will try my best not to give any money to you and why the reasons for tipping are crappy.
1. You act as if you’re my best friend
Just leave me alone ok? I don’t want to bloody chit chat with you. I want food. FOOD! Get it? It’s a restaurant. I go there to eat. I go because I want either Italian food, Chinese Food or something else which I can’t get in a McDonald’s. So I come to a restaurant to fulfill my cravings for it. I will pay for what I value – food. Not you.
Christ, you offend me – kneeling down next to my table, pretending to like me and chatting as if you’re my best friend when it’s obvious that all you’re after is the tip! I’m not a bloody money bag you know. I will pay the bill which includes the cost of the food, the environment and the salaries of the people involved – nothing more.
The only way to get money out of me that I don’t have to legally pay is by prying it out of my cold dead hands…
Bottom line: I don’t want to know your name, or interact with you for any longer than I have to in order to place my order. As far as I’m concerned, you’re the equivalent of a conveyor belt that brings me my food and a computer into which I input my order. Of course, I won’t be rude. But don’t expect me to interact with you any more than I would with some stranger.
Image Credit: cafemama
2. You don’t get paid enough
And this is my problem how exactly? It’s astonishing that customers are expected to make up for your employer’s cheapness in not paying you a decent wage. Please include the full cost in everyone’s bill thank you very much. I’ll pay it because I have to and the charge is there for me to see.
What’s really funny here is that no one seems to criticize the employers! All criticism is reserved for non tipping customers instead of the owners of the restaurant for not paying a decent wage. Wtf! Could it possibly be because you guys know you can make much more by tips and under report your income to the IRS?
3. You’ll spit in my food if I don’t tip you?
And I’ll shoot your kid if you don’t give me a million dollars. Seriously, am I even hearing this right? You’re actually using the threat of blackmail to make me pay you? Well as long as you’re openly claiming to be a criminal it’s all right I guess.
Fortunately that’s why I prefer buffets. Listen apart from it being illegal, this shows your poor integrity. But if you spit in someone’s food because they didn’t give you money you didn’t earn, then you’re a loser and deserve to be a waiter for the rest of your life.
4. Bringing me my food isn’t worthy of being paid extra
Did you cook it? Did you invent it? No. You picked it up and brought it to me. While it might not be easy, there are plenty of jobs which are much worse – shop floor workers for example. And I’ve been a shop floor manager, so I know. Face it – compared to other jobs, being a waiter is unskilled. You get paid what the market will think your services are worth. You don’t deserve more for your work over and above what your employer should pay you.
5. Money doesn’t grow on trees
I expect you to be grateful and pray for me at night if I tip you 10%. Be happy I gave you anything at all. I worked for the money in my wallet and by giving you some I didn’t have to, I’m doing you a favor. Learn to remember that when people give you something they don’t need to, it’s a favor. You don’t complain that they didn’t give you more!
By the way, the same thing above applies to all professions that demand tips including those on cruise liners.
So now that you understand why I won’t give you money you don’t deserve, stop with the “oh how could you?” attitude. I can. And I will.
Update: Here’s a rebuttal of the many silly justifications for tipping that people have given in the comments section.
I started coming on here because I thought it was a nambla chat room, the tipping thing I agree with so I like to come here and lie about my life. so fun!
Nope!,you are just a one pathetic UNATTRACTIVE charecter.It is also IMMATURE.I bet you have never experience fun when you were young ,even now adays nobody wants to talk to you still.You’ve been thinking that all these commenters are accompanying you.
So you think you recieving some good attention hah.
You get really jealious when people can go out spending good time OUTSIDE THEIR HOME.W ell,lucky you for having social media to play with.
I think that the reason tipping exists is due to the fact that the restaurant business is very competitive. It’s so easy to open a restaurant that in order to survive, that there is perfect competition in most markets. In order to spur business, many state governments have lowered the minimum wage for servers so that people who want to open a restaurant do so even though the odds of succeeding for an extended period of time (beyond 3 years) are low because they know their labor costs will be partly subsidized by customers who pay tips. If you go to other countries where people pay more per meal in order to ensure that servers get paid a living wage, people probably don’t go to restaurants as frequently as they do in the United States as the higher cost per visit means fewer visits per year. Since the U.S. attracts many immigrants without skills, an easy way for these immigrants to join the middle class is to become business owners, and many of them open restaurants in an effort to improve their financial affairs. These economic forces have contributed to the culinary diversity present in the U.S. and nowhere else. While I think tipping sucks, the system is there in part to help people take the risk to open a new business and to give servers a reason to be nice to you. Service is a bad job. Those of us with skills get to avoid customer service, so we leave the most unpleasant jobs to the most unskilled (and feel justified in doing so) so we must give an incentive to work in a very competitive, difficult to succeed in industry by providing tips. Human nature is such that when you give unskilled people the worst jobs, it’s not like they don’t know their job sucks, so there has to be something to cushion people from the reality of class and social disadvantage in the way of a tip. Because trust me, no poor unskilled person is going to automatically like a rich person that goes into a restaurant and spends more on one meal than that poor unskilled person will ever make in one week. That’s truly why tipping exist. It helps grind down the rough edges of life.
In reply to Raina
That makes absolutely no sense.
First, we know why tipping exists. The rich aristocrats of the late 19th century liked to come up with various ways to show off their wealth, while at the same time mocking the underclassed. Tipping was a way of showing that they could simply dispose of money while at the same time make a mockery of the “special” treatment they could do for some spare change.
Second, the minimum wage didn’t even exist until the FLSA in 1938, but it didn’t cover all people (including people in tipping careers). Coverage for tipped employees came about in 1966, at which point the FLSA was updated to allow for a tip credit, which allows employers of people who receive tips to deduct from the wages of their employee the amount of tips, but set a Federal limit to that deduction. It also stated that state laws in which the EMPLOYEE benefited more (such as higher minimums) were the only time where state laws superseded Federal. Note that this is a deduction because of RECEIVED tips, not because of the POSSIBILITY of tips. While things have been adjusted since 1966, it has always been the case that the employer MUST ensure their employee receives the full Federal minimum (or state, if it’s higher) with or without tips.
You’re also mistaken about other countries paying servers a “living wage,” at least in American terms. In fact, when adjusted for purchasing power, Japan (where tipping is insulting) the current minimum wage is only equal to about $6.07/hour. Even lower is Spain. Even in countries where it’s higher than ours based on purchasing power, it’s not significantly so. In terms of purchasing power, our minimum wage is in the top 15 in the world, which is definitely respectable.
The reason it seems like other countries pay so much better is because the American concept of “living wage” is higher than almost anywhere. In most of the world, if you can afford shelter and food, you make a living wage. In America, our standard of living is much higher than that. For example, in the US the poverty line for a SINGLE PERSON is $11,880. For a two person household, it’s $16,020. Yet I lived with my son for around $9,600 with cable and internet, a mobile phone, and heat in cold (northern) winters. It certainly wasn’t luxury, but we were better off than a lot of people. While there are certainly far more expensive cities in the US, the cost of living where I do is considered around the national average, so it’s a pretty good example. And remember, that’s the poverty line in America, not even the “living wage” level.
You’re also mistaken about the frequency of restaurant visits in foreign countries, largely because you’re mistaken about the costs. None of the restaurants I’ve been to anywhere in the world (and I’ve been to a LOT) have been noticeably higher priced than similar restaurants in the US, and they all were pretty busy even on week nights.
Please don’t offer speculative explanations where you clearly have no background or knowledge, especially in this day and age where you can easily research this.
In reply to What a joke
“Please don’t offer speculative explanation where you clearly have no background or knowledge.” Hey guess what? It’s America and I can say whatever I want online. If you don’t want to read it, you don’t have to. I’m not going to cater to you, specifically. Disappointing, I know.
Please provide sources and links if you say that you have the authoritative source of why tipping exists. We don’t live in the 19th century, so it’s possible that the economic reasons for tipping have changed. Hard to believe, I know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratuity That link actually shows information that indicates that tipping began in the 17th century and not the 19th, like you claim. Please don’t offer speculative explanations where you clearly have no background or knowledge, especially in this day and age where you can easily research this. Some of the economic reasons for tipping are in section 4.7. Check it out.
As for your assertion that you know how the minimum wage for servers works, you may or may not be right about the deductions (I didn’t check that), but are totally wrong in your understanding of how FSLA applies to servers. To educate yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage_in_the_United_States
In Canada, servers get paid a minimum wage of $10.25/hour in some areas. In France, servers are paid between 8-11 Euros/hour. You have the stupidest rebuttal ever to my assertion that in other countries, servers are paid a ‘living wage’. You say that I am wrong when I think about their wages in terms of American living standards. They don’t live in America. They are paid a ‘living wage’ for where they LIVE. You have no links to your statistics. Pretty lazy for someone who says that these stats can be ‘easily researched’. Maybe we should just take your word for it?
Your extremely stupid anecdote about going to a lot of restaurants all over the world and that they were all busy doesn’t really prove your assertion that people visit restaurants less frequently than in America. You understand why, right? Maybe there were fewer restaurants per capita where you’ve visited, and therefore they appear to be busy even though that may reflect supply and not necessarily demand? You also realize that successful restaurants tend to be full while the ones that aren’t, are well, closed, out of business. It’s called survivorship bias. Also, a full restaurant doesn’t disprove that people in other countries where service charges are reflected in the total check causes people to dine out less frequently. If you have 3,000,000 families living in a metro area with high dining prices, and 20,000 eating establishments, even with each family dining out once every two months, most of the restaurants will have steady business. Your final argument is particularly laughable because it’s so devoid of an understanding of math.
In reply to Raina
–“Hey guess what? It’s America and I can say whatever I want online. If you don’t want to read it, you don’t have to. I’m not going to cater to you, specifically. Disappointing, I know.”–
The internet isn’t “America,” dumbass, nor does “freedom of speech” mean you can say whatever the hell you want without criticism. Hell, it doesn’t even mean you CAN say whatever you want. There are absolutely restrictions on what you’re allowed to say, even in America.
–“Please provide sources and links if you say that you have the authoritative source of why tipping exists. We don’t live in the 19th century, so it’s possible that the economic reasons for tipping have changed. Hard to believe, I know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratuity That link actually shows information that indicates that tipping began in the 17th century and not the 19th, like you claim. Please don’t offer speculative explanations where you clearly have no background or knowledge, especially in this day and age where you can easily research this. Some of the economic reasons for tipping are in section 4.7. Check it out.”–
Hey, did you know there’s a REASON teachers don’t allow Wikipedia as a source for homework? It’s because it’s not a reliable source for most things, since it’s basically written by people like you who don’t necessarily have a grasp of what they’re talking about or what the information says. It’s really only good for finding other sources, or for compiled data (such as lists of things, or raw numbers on a topic from a variety of sources).
Yes, tipping existed prior to the 19th century, but it didn’t COME TO AMERICA until the 19th century, and the tipping that existed prior to that amounted to a tip jar ( http://www.businessinsider.com/history-of-tipping-2015-10 ). The tipping that came to America in the 19th century was exactly as described, and despised for that fact.
–“As for your assertion that you know how the minimum wage for servers works, you may or may not be right about the deductions (I didn’t check that), but are totally wrong in your understanding of how FSLA applies to servers. To educate yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage_in_the_United_States“–
Again, you’re wrong. Here’s the Department of Labor to correct you:
“Employers electing to use the tip credit provision must be able to show that tipped employees receive at least the minimum wage when direct (or cash) wages and the tip credit amount are combined. If an employee’s tips combined with the employer’s direct (or cash) wages of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the minimum hourly wage of $7.25 per hour, the employer must make up the difference.”
https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs15.htm
–“In Canada, servers get paid a minimum wage of $10.25/hour in some areas. In France, servers are paid between 8-11 Euros/hour. You have the stupidest rebuttal ever to my assertion that in other countries, servers are paid a ‘living wage’. You say that I am wrong when I think about their wages in terms of American living standards. They don’t live in America. They are paid a ‘living wage’ for where they LIVE. You have no links to your statistics. Pretty lazy for someone who says that these stats can be ‘easily researched’. Maybe we should just take your word for it?”–
For somebody who likes Wikipedia so much, it’s interesting you couldn’t find this one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_country (Although a better source is http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/humanrightsreport/index.htm#wrapper it is really tedious to compile the data).
Looking at the PPP (which means adjusted for actual purchasing power parity). Yes, of course SOME countries pay a minimum wage with a higher purchasing power, but MOST don’t. The US is 15th on that list, ordered by hourly PPP, out of 192 United Nation member states. That means that the minimum wage in the US is higher than about 92.2% of the countries in the UN when you adjust for purchasing power. You can’t grasp at the handful that pay more and say, “SEE!? PROOF!”
In terms of a “living wage,” you seem to misunderstand my entire point in general, anyway. What is called a “living wage” is a matter of STANDARD OF LIVING. If you want to determine whether it’s a “living wage” in ALL countries, then you calculate ONLY the cost of shelter, food, water, and source of heat (even if it’s the cost of wood for a fire). That’s where PPP comes in. How much food can a person buy in Gabon on their minimum wage, for example. How much is a loaf of bread? It doesn’t matter what the exact EXCHANGE rate is because it tells you nothing. People in Andorra might get €5.63 an hour ($7.47 US), but with the price of things there, it’s only actually worth about $4.92.
–“Your extremely stupid anecdote about going to a lot of restaurants all over the world and that they were all busy doesn’t really prove your assertion that people visit restaurants less frequently than in America. You understand why, right? Maybe there were fewer restaurants per capita where you’ve visited, and therefore they appear to be busy even though that may reflect supply and not necessarily demand? You also realize that successful restaurants tend to be full while the ones that aren’t, are well, closed, out of business. It’s called survivorship bias.”–
Okay, first off my assertion was not people visit restaurants less frequently. That was YOUR assertion. Second, your logic here is flawed. Even if there were less restaurants your latter point here negates why that would even matter – people go to the EXISTING restaurants on a basis regular enough for them to stay open. Any new restaurant that opens must compete both in terms of food pricing and quality, but also desirability. It does not make sense to open a pizza restaurant with a target customer of college students within two blocks of an existing one, for example. This is true ANYWHERE.
And that’s beside the fact that the whole reason the subject came up is because you were suggesting that the cost of dining out is significantly higher, which it’s not. But then, go back to that PPP. How much does it cost to eat out in Cameroon?
–“Also, a full restaurant doesn’t disprove that people in other countries where service charges are reflected in the total check causes people to dine out less frequently. If you have 3,000,000 families living in a metro area with high dining prices, and 20,000 eating establishments, even with each family dining out once every two months, most of the restaurants will have steady business. Your final argument is particularly laughable because it’s so devoid of an understanding of math.”–
Actually, I’m quite good at math. I was even hired as a math tutor during college because of it. Your problem is that you’re going based off an entirely made up assumption you have that isn’t backed with any evidence. The prices (again!) aren’t noticeably higher.
If you want math, let’s break it down based on America, shall we? The minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. Now, if a server gets tips their employer can pay them as low as $2.13 an hour (as long as the tips make up the difference, per the FLSA). If they don’t receive tips the employer must pay the difference of $5.12 per hour for that server. Ignoring the fact that they must LEGALLY already be able to do this, should they need to, if they were to try to offset the cost it wouldn’t be noticeably different prices. Assuming the management had the sense to schedule servers in such a way that they will be covering at LEAST four different covers per hour based on average business (AVERAGE being important here), then that means offsetting the cost an average of $1.28 per cover, divided between whatever the average order is (food, drink, etc.). And four covers per hour is pretty slow, meaning that realistically the cost per cover would be even lower. Unless your restaurant is super cheap, nobody is going to notice this difference.
In reply to Raina
No state has ever lowered the minimum wage to make it easier for a restaurant to open up.
http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm
You are a very stupid individual spreading false information from lack of knowledge and research.
Next time you open your mouth, think before you say anything else stupid.
In reply to $Bill
$Bill, I realize you must be Einstein, but why don’t you take a look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage_in_the_United_States and this: http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/california-laws-tipped-employees.html
So, it kinda is up to the state to decide what it is they want to pay a tipped worker based on Federal law. The only stupid one here is you. I just proved you wrong.
In reply to Raina
http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm
That is an official Government website.
You are quoting Wikipedia to me.
Are you retarded or just stupid?
In reply to Raina
Tipping is so dumb. There are a lot of American customs I don’t agree with. Tipping, covering your mouth when you sneeze, not beating my wife with a stick, etc. I mean I’m not married. Woman can’t stand me, but if I were I’d beat her with a stick.
In reply to Raina
On a side note thanks to the use of a magnifying glass and a pair of tweezers I actually located my own dick! It’s a red letter day! It’s too small for sex, and I don’t have the testosterone necessary to achieve an erection, but I might not have to sit down to pee anymore. #blessed
It’s easy to point out how unnecessary it is for tipping custom.At least whem you go oversea ,people will notice that all AMERICANS are rich and generious.
BTW,I feel sory for you. No one should deserve to stay in lockup cell with internet.I know there is nothing else you can do in your life.It’s ok,man,just keep on replying endlessly until you are sick of it and take it to your grave with smile.
In reply to Pralanna
It’s easy to point out that your English and grammar skills are pathetic. When I go overseas of course they feel all Americans are rich. The foreigners live in mud huts.
Any extra money I give them is earned, not because they feel they should receive a tip for doing nothing extra. I like to make them do humiliating things before I tip them.
In reply to Kelly
Tipping started out as a way for wealthy European aristocrats to get special treatment and humiliate the waiter. I guess you are just continuing the tradition.
In reply to Kelly
As you can tell I LOVE repeating myself! I come on here daily to say the same shit over and over again. What else am I going to do though? I have no life. See you tomorrow
Bill and Who?,Kelly? It’s the same person,isn’t it.
And I am not talking about those mud hut poor foreigner countries ,you pathetic ,ugly fat 50 years old kid.
Stay in your lockup cell ,I don’t think you will survive in the sun light.Go cook your Mac ‘n Cheese, you wish you can eat in restaurants with this appearance of yours.We all know you’ ve tried many times but you failed.You don’t fit in with any society,don’t you know?
It’s unnecssary for tipping , every knows that.It doesn’ t have to be “European aristocrats ” to origin this.
It was designed to avoid people like you from coming in.
In reply to Pralanna
WUT… Just… What?
Hey you cheap ass. Go eat at McDonalds. You cheap fucker!!! YOU’RE all a bunch of stingy, cheap ashe’s ans do nothing but Cmplain and whine about EVERYRHING!!!!! GO BACK TO INDIA!!
In reply to E
Last night I had a party of 6 dining in an upscale steakhouse. We were there for close to three hours. Stayed past closing time. Our combined bill was $474. We left no tip even tho the waitress busted her ass off. Actually we had 2 waitresses to meet our needs. I go to restaurants for the nice quality food. Your pay is not my concern as I already paid for the food. Fast food has poor quality food that’s why I eat only eat at fancy restaurants and have never left a tip.
In reply to NoTipSkip
6 people at an “upscale” restaurant ran $474 dollars. That’s $79 per person. Yeah….sorry I’m obviously full of shit. Sorry. I’ll be a better person from now on.
In reply to NoTipSkip
It sucks that I couldn’t afford drinks or appetizers. Each guest only spent $26.33 per hour on average which is clearly not an upscale restaurant. I can’t tip cuz I’m poor. Sorry
In reply to NoTipSkip
You are jealous of the real NoTipSkip. Those prices for dinner are most likely a Ruth Chris steakhouse. It is considered upscale.
Not everybody has room in their stomachs for appetizers, or wants the extra calories.
Filet mignon and a side dish is a full meal there. They also had drinks or dessert based on the bill total.
This restaurant serves Prime grade steak. So yes it qualifies as upscale.
In reply to $Bill
I’ve got even a better story. This past Sunday me and a few businesses associates had lunch at a top notch Italian restaurant. The waitress kept checking up on us and rudely interrupting our private conversation.i knew the stupid bitch was trying to eves drop so we started to talk about how great the service was and how big of a tip we were gonna leave. When the bill came and I signed my name on the credit card slip, inside the folder I put a napkin. The napkin read- TIPS (1) don’t eat yellow snow (2) when dating a young girl always ask for i.d. (3) get a real job loser! We all ran out the door when she went into to kitchen. We parked in front of the window and watched the sadness in her eyes when she realized there was no monetary tip to be had.
In reply to Danny
That was so funny I almost spilled my coffee. I would have loved to have seen the waitresses face expecting a large undeserved tip.
In reply to $Bill
I’d love to see it, but I spend WAY too much time masturbating in my mom’s basement.
In reply to Danny
Nothing about that last story even made made sense, but I’ll post it anyway because you dumb fucks will read it and reply. What else are you gonna do? Get a job, or a life, or a girlfriend? Doubt it.
In reply to $Bill
…To me at least, but I’m a broke cheap piece of shit. I’m guessing at the prices at a steak house. Because of the fact I haven’t showered in a year I’m not allowed in restaurants anymore.
Oh, and to add. You’re just a cheap fuck!! no wonder your country i so pathetic and poor! Stay out of my restsurnt!! Your lack of empathy and utter disrespect is disgusting. The amount of crap,servers have to go through with you indians is just annoying to say the least. We see you walk in our restaurant and make bets as to who gets ‘stuck’ with your cheap asses I dont give a shit what the rules are I your country. Youre in AMERICA. follow our rules or go home ! Or go eat at IHOP.
In reply to B
Tipping is not an American rule and never even originated in America. My ass is not cheap you are an asshole that thinks he should get paid extra money for doing a unskilled job.
There is no reason for me to pay you extra money. Other than just fill my drinks and bring me the food the cooks made What do you honestly think you do the requires a tip?
My tip to you is get a real job you pathetic piece of shit.
In reply to Del Lago
I think it’s time that you learn to buy your own groceries, cook your own meal, keep your own kitchen / dining room presentable, serve yourself, and clean up after yourself.
Or are those unskilled jobs too much for a grown man like you to handle.
In reply to Del Lago’s Left Nut
We can cook our own food. The reason people go to a restaurant is for somebody else to do it. That’s why it costs more than the actual cost of the ingredients – the cost of cooking it and providing service. If everyone just stayed home and cooked, there’d be no reason to hire servers.
I think it’s time you stopped blaming the customers for the server’s circumstances and pay. It’s the employer’s job to pay them.
In reply to What a joke
I’m also mildly retarded. Just thought you should know.
In reply to Del Lago
Ah yes, I have kicked customers like you out of my restaurant before. I don’t need or want your kind their. No tip no service.
In reply to Squre
Haha, YOUR restaurant? You can’t even use the correct their/there, I doubt it’s YOUR restaurant, and if it is, it’s certainly not successful.
If it’s YOUR restaurant, why not explain to your employees why it is you don’t pay them? Why not put up a sign telling customers it’s their responsibility to pay your employees because you refuse to? People keep saying customers who don’t tip are cheap, but it’s the owners and managers who aren’t paying their damn employees who are cheap.
In reply to Squre
Tipping is not mandatory. Refusing service to a person based on this would be losing a paying customer. I am the customer not your employer.
I dine in many upscale restaurants. I never leave a tip, and always get welcomed back. Affluent customers such as myself is necessary for the survival of upscale restaurants. Waiters and waitresses are a dime a dozen and easily replaced. Wealthy customers are not easily replaced
Based on the fact that you did not use proper grammar in the first place. You are most likely a dishwasher at a Chinese restaurant
In reply to Squre
But I’m a huge dildo, so take it with a grain of salt.
In reply to Squre
I clearly have very low self asteem. People hate me. Want to be friends?
In reply to B
Funny thing is it’s actually customary to tip in India ?
They just don’t do it here.
http://www.cntraveler.com/stories/2008-11-11/etiquette-101-tipping-guide
In reply to Just the tip
That’s not quite accurate.
Per TripAdvisor:
“In restaurants, if the service was good, tip anything between approx 5-10% of the bill.”
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g293860-s606/India:Tipping.And.Etiquette.html
Note it says “if the service was good…” not “bad,” or “okay,” or “average,” but “good.” What do you think the standard is for “good” service to an Indian?
Per fullstopindia:
“…keep in mind over-tipping can also be deemed rude…Waiter/Restaurant: 10% or less of check total”
http://www.fullstopindia.com/how-much-do-i-tip-in-india-a-guide-to-tipping/
The fact that tipping exists doesn’t mean it’s “customary” or even done regularly, and it certainly isn’t anywhere near the way tipping is done in the US, even when it is done. From what I understand from my Indian coworkers, and from my experiences in India, only tourists really tip.
In reply to What a joke
So it’s not accurate, but they DO tip in India? Ok cool. Good argument.
In reply to What a joke
I’m not sure why you posted different links saying the same exact thing the one I posted said. And who says those websites are more accurate. Face it people from India want to play the “I’m from India where we don’t tip” card when in fact they do.
In reply to Just the tip
Apparently you didn’t read my actual comment, moron.
Tipping exists, but people don’t generally tip. It certainly isn’t like America where servers expect you to tip even for poor service. If the service is GOOD (not average, not poor, but GOOD) then you might leave a small tip. They certainly won’t cry over it of you don’t. And as far as I’ve ever heard it’s really only tourists who actually leave tips.
In reply to What a joke
As far as you’ve ever heard? And I’m the moron? You literally googled a bunch of shit and posted links saying the same thing I said. If you haven’t actually been to India and you’re just going of what you “heard” then you don’t know shit. Every link says the same thing. THEY TIP IN INDIA!!!! Don’t give a shit about the percentages, or under what circumstances. The point is they tip. Thanks for helping me prove my point. Mic drop
In reply to Just the tip
As far as I’ve heard from INDIANS, as I specifically said in my original reply. You know, the people who live and/or have lived there.
Saying, “They tip in India,” is inaccurate. Saying it’s customary is also inaccurate. Neither of the links I posted said either. What they said is YOU as a tourist should leave a tip if the service is GOOD. That’s NOT the same thing.
In reply to What a joke
Nope. They tip in India.
In reply to Just the tip
Here, an explanation as to why Indians don’t tip from an Indian: https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Indians-such-horrible-tippers
Here is another: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070725224305AAALz2q
Note they say IF you tip. It is not considered common practice by Indians, and not part of THEIR culture.
In reply to What a joke
Oh, ok. So they DO tip. Cool
In reply to Just the tip
Holy shit you’re stupid. It’s as if you have no reading comprehension skills at all. You said, “it’s actually customary to tip in India,” which isn’t true. Indians do not customarily tip in India. I even provided links where they specifically stated it is not part of their culture. It isn’t done by Indians, it isn’t expected by Indians. So, no, “they” don’t tip in India. The only people who tip in India are tourists.
I also provided links to show even **tourists** who DO tip should be careful, and how it isn’t like America where the entitled servers expect it regardless of service, and how the percentage **tourists** tip (if a **tourist** decides to for good service) should be quite low (less than 10% of a very cheap bill), and how it’s even considered insulting to tip too much. Hell, it even says it’s discouraged at all in many restaurants.
In reply to What a joke
So they DO tip? Got it.
To celebrate my daughter’s sweet 16 birthday, I treated her and five of her friends to the nail salon. The event cost me $600.00.
All the employees that work there are Asian, and don’t speak a word of English. Of course the woman greeter up front that takes your money speaks rudimentary English if a customer is unhappy.
In perfect English she asks me if I want to leave a tip on my credit card? Of course I responded with an irritated NO. She went on to tell me that employees rely on tips to supplement their income. I told her I am not their employer and it is not my problem.
How dare she speak to me like this. I told her that for inconveniencing me with this bullshit I want my bill credited $20.
She then tells me ”I no understand English not so good.”
I told her I am paying $580 or you are never getting any more business from me. In perfect English she apologizes for inconveniencing me and tells me that she would be happy to give me the $20 credit.
Before I left I told her it shouldn’t cost $100 to do Gel Nails. I told her the profit margin from this is very high. So the truth of the matter is, you are the cheap fuck not me. You are the one that pays your employees poorly. Telling me that employees rely on tips to pay their bills is unprofessional and inexcusable. Don’t ever forget that it is never the customers problem! I then left the salon with some very happy girls with pretty fingernails.
The next stop was a fancy Italian restaurant. I didn’t leave a tip there either.
In reply to $Bill
And then I tried to fuck my dauggter, but she like every other female on the planet turned me down :(
In reply to $Bill
I was the server at the restaurant, and it’s true he didn’t leave a tip. But later that night all the girls came back and took turns sucking my big black dick in the break room. Their freshly painted nails looked so pretty on my giant black cock. Nice touch $Bill. Oh and don’t worry, right before I shot my load on your daughters face I made her call me daddy.
In reply to Big D
The girls are not into monkeys sorry. They outgrew the zoo when they were 12. You might have better luck in the ghetto or prison where your kind live anyways.
In reply to Big D
You are a typical Nigger that dreams about sex with white girls. You are not even human you are a fucking animal. The only kind of good Nigger is a dead Nigger.
In reply to White Man
Another keyboard warrior. None of have the balls to say any of this to black mans face! I’m fuckin all white your white woman and there’s nothing you can do about it.
In reply to Big D
First of all niggers are not men. You are a subhuman monkey bitch. You would not be the first bitch ass nigger I fucked up, and you certainly will not be the last.
The only way you ever fucked a white woman was to pay a fat drug addicted prostitute. White women look at niggers like you and see nothing but a big lip monkey zoo animal.
Stupid big lip monkey nigger with a tiny dick. Yeah college surveys proved niggers have little tiny little boy dicks.
In reply to White Man
Your wife disagrees.
In reply to White Man
I’m white and my fiancé is black… You’re either trolling or incredibly offensive.
In reply to Chika
Or just an inbred piece of shit that’s jealous he can’t get a woman to save his life. Maybe his sister. MAYBE
In reply to Chika
Please don’t reproduce. We don’t need no more niggerettes in this country.
In reply to Chika
I bet your fiancé is a server. A slave for the rich white man
In reply to Chika
Why do you fuck zoo animals? You are fucking disgusting nigger lover.
In reply to White Man
Go back to your trailer park and fuck your sister. Or mother. I’m sure she’s the same person.
In reply to Jen
Niggers ruin everything. Take any all nigger neighborhood in any state in the USA for instance.
There is no such thing as a all Nigger neighborhood that is thriving, safe or beautiful.
Every single nigger habitat is riddled with crime, drugs and poverty. Even pizza places refuse to deliver there because they are afraid of being murdered, raped, or robbed.
The more niggers that live in any given habitat the worse it becomes. Niggers also ruin malls and have forced out white paying customers leading to malls closing all over the USA.
A nigger broke a window of my car to steal spare change. I chased him and he got tangled in a barbed wire fence. The nigger then fell into a construction area and was impaled by rebar.
It was a shame he was still alive when I called the police. I never even said anything about the injury hoping that would take care of the thief.
In reply to White Man
Lmao he’s not a server. He’s the head of the IT department at liberal arts college on the east coast. It’s ranked one of the best. Oh and he graduated from that school as well. Nice try. He’s a great man and I’m proud of him and we love holding hands and kissing in public especially to rile up people like you. You don’t even wanna know what goes on when we are alone. Also FYI I’ve been with a white fife before and my fiancé has a way bigger dick than any little scrawny white loser.
In reply to White Man
Lmao he’s not a server. He’s the head of the IT department at liberal arts college on the east coast. It’s ranked one of the best. Oh and he graduated from that school as well. Nice try. He’s a great man and I’m proud of him and we love holding hands and kissing in public especially to rile up people like you. You don’t even wanna know what goes on when we are alone. Also FYI I’ve been with a whiteman before and my fiancé has a way bigger dick than any little scrawny white loser.
In reply to Chika
You are still fucking a zoo animal. You really are a disgusting Nigger lover.
Let me guess, you are a really fat obese stinky white woman that no self-respecting white guy wants. You have no self-esteem or future so you settled for a Nigger. You figured that fucking a monkey was better than nothing.
You are a disgrace to the white race. If all goes well he will die of a drug overdose, or be murdered just like most niggers end up. Of course there’s a 95% chance he’ll end up in prison. He will probably kill you too when you gets tired of you.
In reply to White Man
Ok, cool. Not to worry. Stay in your trailer park and fuck your sister.
Just kidding. We know you’ve never anyone but your mother
You ppl are so funny, and this post is so old but so many comments wow!!!
I was talking about this with ppl, and someone made a good point I haven’t seen on here. It was basically that servers don’t complain to their bosses about not being paid enough because there’d be consequences. So…if the customer doesn’t tip, it’s really easy to take out anger on them.
I totally agree with them! That was my point too, but I hadn’t thought of it that way. The servers are already angry in the 1st place before the customer even came. I’ve heard how servers can be treated by other servers and even chefs, so I think that’s an excellent point.
In reply to Sparkles
The problem with that is nobody is making them work there, and even in anonymous situations (like here) they are blaming the customer.
People would be angry if the customer had a crappy day and took it out on the server, so why is it okay for the server to blame the customer for their crappy job and pay?
In reply to What a joke
The job attracts people with no education or special skills. It is a very simple dead end job. People working dead-end jobs are not professional and get angry very easily.
So waiter and waitresses blame the customer and the rest of the world for their shortcomings.
Instead of taking responsibility for their fuck ups in life. They rather blame wealthy customers like you and me. They are adult children that think the customer is there to pay their bills for them.
They are very simple, immature, and angry in general because they are children in adult bodies working kid jobs with adult bills.