It never fails to shock me how a tip is demanded in the US. People simply refuse to listen to reason when we (yes, there are others!) tell them that leaving a tip isn’t necessary. Well, I’m hoping for too much here, but if you’re a waiter, here are 5 reasons why I will try my best not to give any money to you and why the reasons for tipping are crappy.
1. You act as if you’re my best friend
Just leave me alone ok? I don’t want to bloody chit chat with you. I want food. FOOD! Get it? It’s a restaurant. I go there to eat. I go because I want either Italian food, Chinese Food or something else which I can’t get in a McDonald’s. So I come to a restaurant to fulfill my cravings for it. I will pay for what I value – food. Not you.
Christ, you offend me – kneeling down next to my table, pretending to like me and chatting as if you’re my best friend when it’s obvious that all you’re after is the tip! I’m not a bloody money bag you know. I will pay the bill which includes the cost of the food, the environment and the salaries of the people involved – nothing more.
The only way to get money out of me that I don’t have to legally pay is by prying it out of my cold dead hands…
Bottom line: I don’t want to know your name, or interact with you for any longer than I have to in order to place my order. As far as I’m concerned, you’re the equivalent of a conveyor belt that brings me my food and a computer into which I input my order. Of course, I won’t be rude. But don’t expect me to interact with you any more than I would with some stranger.
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2. You don’t get paid enough
And this is my problem how exactly? It’s astonishing that customers are expected to make up for your employer’s cheapness in not paying you a decent wage. Please include the full cost in everyone’s bill thank you very much. I’ll pay it because I have to and the charge is there for me to see.
What’s really funny here is that no one seems to criticize the employers! All criticism is reserved for non tipping customers instead of the owners of the restaurant for not paying a decent wage. Wtf! Could it possibly be because you guys know you can make much more by tips and under report your income to the IRS?
3. You’ll spit in my food if I don’t tip you?
And I’ll shoot your kid if you don’t give me a million dollars. Seriously, am I even hearing this right? You’re actually using the threat of blackmail to make me pay you? Well as long as you’re openly claiming to be a criminal it’s all right I guess.
Fortunately that’s why I prefer buffets. Listen apart from it being illegal, this shows your poor integrity. But if you spit in someone’s food because they didn’t give you money you didn’t earn, then you’re a loser and deserve to be a waiter for the rest of your life.
4. Bringing me my food isn’t worthy of being paid extra
Did you cook it? Did you invent it? No. You picked it up and brought it to me. While it might not be easy, there are plenty of jobs which are much worse – shop floor workers for example. And I’ve been a shop floor manager, so I know. Face it – compared to other jobs, being a waiter is unskilled. You get paid what the market will think your services are worth. You don’t deserve more for your work over and above what your employer should pay you.
5. Money doesn’t grow on trees
I expect you to be grateful and pray for me at night if I tip you 10%. Be happy I gave you anything at all. I worked for the money in my wallet and by giving you some I didn’t have to, I’m doing you a favor. Learn to remember that when people give you something they don’t need to, it’s a favor. You don’t complain that they didn’t give you more!
By the way, the same thing above applies to all professions that demand tips including those on cruise liners.
So now that you understand why I won’t give you money you don’t deserve, stop with the “oh how could you?” attitude. I can. And I will.
Update: Here’s a rebuttal of the many silly justifications for tipping that people have given in the comments section.
I have a masters degree in chemical engineering. Several times a year I go to training classes to learn new technology and advancements.
If I make a mistake it can cost several thousand dollars, and the company may need to lay off people until it can recouped the loss.
You are a unskilled waitress fetching food and drinks. You don’t deserve a tip or extra money.
In reply to Fredric
Waitresses think their job is hard and skilled. The truth is, simple people are challenged by simple tasks. Waiting tables is unskilled and simple.
Waiters think they should be tipped for the service they provided. It is not a service at all. It is their job to fetch your dinner and drinks. You were hired to serve people. If you want extra money then get a second job. I will never tip the hired help.
In reply to $Bill
Im glad people spit in your food. If you can’t be a decent person to leave a tip then make your own damn food. Don’t go out. Every server would be happy not to deal with your bullshit. For every server that has to deal with piece of shit people like you. Fuck you hope you get hit by a car
In reply to james ngyugen
Tipping does not make you a decent person it makes you a fool! The server should be thrilled to wait on someone as important as me. A waiter is nothing but a modern-day servant.
I am wealthy and well educated. The waiter is just shit under my shoes.
In reply to $Bill
You probably eat at fancy high end restaurants, then? Tips are factored in to the total. You’re still tipping.
In reply to Ty
Yeah, they’re not. Even a service charge is not considered tipping and is taxed differently. “Mandatory” tip charges cannot be legally enforced (and cases against people who refused to pay them have been thrown out of court).
A tip is, by definition as well as law, entirely optional. I imagine you’ve never actually set foot in an actual high-end restaurant if you imagine they’d be successful trying to force people to tip, and none would be so absurd as to attempt a “mandatory” gratuity for parties smaller than 6.
In reply to What a joke
We need to get rid of the Federal minimun wage as that forces out competition. In SERVICE related jobs, as that is a recognized title, SERVICE charges (15,000 dollar weddings with 5,000 dollar service charges, go to the SERVERS) in restaurant settings, get rid of tips altogether, charge a 30% SERVICE charge that goes on a paycheck for all SERVERS, as that is exactly the reason you chose my upscale restaurant, vs McDonalds. You don’t get SERVED there, you get handed trays of food. No more minimum wage, retail workers are out of luck, don’t give a shit about them, and by definition of SERVICE, the customer absolutely pays the SERVERS wage, because, THAT’S WHAT’S HAPPENING. :-) SERVICE. 30% flat, every bill, every time. 100 dollar bills, 30% each, 30 dollars a table, 5 tables an hour, figure 150 dollars an hour on checks that just 100 dollars each. Don’t like it, lick the dogshit off our slip resostant shoes Mr./Ms. “what’s au gratin potatos” and what’s a “vinaigrette emulsion”. Lol, I know more about food than people more than twice my age.
In reply to $Bill
You have got to be kidding me with a waiter being “shit under your shoes” people like me (a full time college student) depend on jobs like these to pay their way through school. It’s people like you that are low life pieces of shit that think you’re better than everyone else. I have worked in the service industry for over four years now and I give zero shits if you tip. But if you think people should be “thrilled” to wait on you you’re completely wrong. How about you just do everyone a favor and stay home and cook your “important” self your own meal so you don’t go out and ruin other people’s day you prick.
In reply to james ngyugen
Well him eating the chefs food pays your wage. If he doesn’t come and pay for the meal then you’re out of a job regardless. If you’re at a retail store looking for shoes to try on. Do you believe you should tip the person whose also paid minimum wage to go back and forth finding your size shoe? Because that’s basically all you are doing is going back and forth to bring the correct order to the customer.
In reply to james ngyugen
Leaving a tip does not make you a decent person. It makes you stupid and foolish for throwing away your money.
A server should be honored to serve a wealthy important person such as myself. I don’t tip the hired help for doing their menial unskilled jobs.
In reply to $Bill
I tend to dine at exclusive restaurants that are very overpriced. I will admit it is a silly waste of money. I can afford this luxury, and enjoy the indulgence at the end of the day.
It feels good to know that I am not the only person who thinks tipping is no different then flushing your money down the toilet. I truly don’t care if the waiter relies on that money. The reason I dine out is for fancy food, not to pay the wages of the help.
Caviar stuffed mushrooms, lobster tail, truffle infused blue mashed potatoes, flourless chocolate cake covered with raspberry gold frosting. The check for the four of us was around $495.
I hate at the end of the meal when the waiters kiss your ass, it is so demeaning for them. The look on their faces when they see I left them no tip is priceless.
In reply to Dr. Wolfgang
It does ruin the meal at the end when the serving wenches kiss your ass.
I have tried caviar many times. The eggs pop in your mouth with the overpowering salt and fish taste. It makes me want to gag, I don’t know how you enjoy it?
The rest of your meal sounds really good though.
In reply to Dr. Wolfgang
Wow you cocksucker. You’re taking advantage of a system that you know is in place already. Yeah you’re a worthless piece of trash.
In reply to Ken
I am heterosexual therefore I do not suck cock. The proper terminology is penis.
The waiters and waitresses were hired by the restaurant to serve their customers. They get paid by their employer, at a wage they agreed upon when they took the job. I am not obligated to tip, because I am not under any contractual obligation to do so I am legally only required to pay my bill.
As a customer it is not my responsibility to pay the wages of the hired help. Since you are already paid federal minimum wage, the pay you receive is more than adequate for your level of skill and education.
You need to grow up and stop feeling like the world owes you extra money. You are an adult, use adult words when you talk about male reproductive organs.
In reply to Ken
I am heterosexual therefore I do not suck cock. The proper terminology is penis.
The waiters and waitresses were hired by the restaurant to serve their customers. They get paid by their employer, at a wage they agreed upon when they took the job. I am not obligated to tip, because I am not under any contractual obligation to do so I am legally only required to pay my bill.
As a customer it is not my responsibility to pay the wages of the hired help. Since you are already paid federal minimum wage, the pay you receive is more than adequate for your level of skill and education.
You need to grow up and stop feeling like the world owes you extra money. You are an adult, use adult words when you talk about male reproductive organs.
In reply to Ken
I am heterosexual therefore I do not suck cock. The proper terminology is penis.
The waiters and waitresses were hired by the restaurant to serve their customers. They get paid by their employer, at a wage they agreed upon when they took the job. I am not obligated to tip, because I am not under any contractual obligation to do so I am legally only required to pay my bill.
As a customer it is not my responsibility to pay the wages of the hired help. Since you are already paid federal minimum wage, the pay you receive is more than adequate for your level of skill and education.
You need to grow up and stop feeling like the world owes you extra money. You are an adult, use adult words when you talk about male reproductive organs.
In reply to Ken
If it were in place you’d be paying taxes on your tips.
In reply to Jmorris
Whether it happens or not, by law servers are required to report all of their tips. I’m sure they can easily pocket cash but there’s no way around the credit card tips. In reference to a system being in place I was talking about the fact that people know how it works and if they don’t want to tip they have the option to order food to go.
In reply to Ken
“How it works” is the server is paid for their job by their employer, and tipping is, by it’s very nature, optional. If it weren’t, it would be a fee and would legally have to be listed as part of the price.
Even so-called “mandatory” tips have been determined by courts to not be legally enforceable if a person refuses to pay them since a gratuity is, by definition, voluntary.
In reply to What a joke
Look dude I’m not here to debate. I think you know what I meant.
In reply to Ken
We know how tipping works. It is optional. I choose not to tip and there is nothing wrong with that. A server is only worth the minimum wage they already earn. Honestly, they should make much less.
In reply to Zeus
I’ve never served before but I would imagine it’s very stressful and hectic. I’d say it’s easily worth more than minimum wage. Perhaps you would too if you had a son or daughter doing it. Or God forbid you lose your job and it’s your only option for employment.
In reply to Ken
Many of us have had jobs as a server. It’s one of the easiest jobs ever, and anyone who says differently is simply incapable of doing anything else. The only stress involved is if they let themselves be stressed out by it. If they fuck up, or even if they lose their job, it’s NOTHING to go get a new job. My cousin has a list of 20+ places she has worked because she’s a terrible worker, and yet she has no trouble getting hired.
Either way, nobody is making them take the job, and they are the ones who agreed to the pay. If they don’t like it, then it’s up to them to get a different job just like anyone else.
In reply to What a joke
It’s so easy to serve. I did it for years. I licked the cleats of my customers and begged for more, and a LOT of times, guess what? I didn’t get tipped. Know what I did? The next time I saw them, I took care of them the same, with the same damned smile, and I ran my ass off for my kings and queens. I wear the apron, not them. If you’re a server, YOU wear the apron, NOT your customers. You treat them as if they are your job.. because they are. Sometimes I honestly felt $6.50/hr was too much. Sometimes I blamed myself for horroble service that I felt I only deserved $3.25/hr. But honestly, at the end of the day, I only deserve $2.10/hr., and I would GLADLY take that.
In reply to Ken
Only stressful if you make it stressful. For me it was easy to serve. If someone got mad, tell the boss and have him or her deal with it. That’s what their paid for. And on I went with my business.
In reply to Zeus
May karma reach you in the most unexpected and yet most well deserved way
In reply to Kara
May you forever work at minimum wage jobs and enjoy continued success having unwed kids all while enjoying your beautiful trailer park.
In reply to Kara
Karma is neither malevolent or beneficent. It is balance. How often do you see servers spontaneously rewarded for their constantly playing victims? How often do you see the rich who have built up their wealth lose it? Neither happens very often.
In reply to Jmorris
You guys are both fucktard’s, plain and simple. You have no regard for anyone other than your personal indulgences ! You have obviously never gotten your hands dirty to put yourself through school or to support your family! And if you had any idea what’s going around in the world, we do pay taxes on our tips, idiot!
In reply to Ken
I am heterosexual therefore I do not suck cock. The proper terminology is penis.
The waiters and waitresses were hired by the restaurant to serve their customers. They get paid by their employer, at a wage they agreed upon when they took the job. I am not obligated to tip, because I am not under any contractual obligation to do so I am legally only required to pay my bill.
As a customer it is not my responsibility to pay the wages of the hired help. Since you are already paid federal minimum wage, the pay you receive is more than adequate for your level of skill and education.
You need to grow up and stop feeling like the world owes you extra money. You are an adult, use adult words when you talk about male reproductive organs.
In reply to Ken
I am heterosexual therefore I do not suck cock. The proper terminology is penis.
The waiters and waitresses were hired by the restaurant to serve their customers. They get paid by their employer, at a wage they agreed upon when they took the job. I am not obligated to tip, because I am not under any contractual obligation to do so I am legally only required to pay my bill.
As a customer it is not my responsibility to pay the wages of the hired help. Since you are already paid federal minimum wage, the pay you receive is more than adequate for your level of skill and education.
You need to grow up and stop feeling like the world owes you extra money. You are an adult, use adult words when you talk about male reproductive organs.
In reply to Ken
I am heterosexual therefore I do not suck cock. The proper terminology is penis.
The waiters and waitresses were hired by the restaurant to serve their customers. They get paid by their employer, at a wage they agreed upon when they took the job. I am not obligated to tip, because I am not under any contractual obligation to do so I am legally only required to pay my bill.
As a customer it is not my responsibility to pay the wages of the hired help. Since you are already paid federal minimum wage, the pay you receive is more than adequate for your level of skill and education.
You need to grow up and stop feeling like the world owes you extra money. You are an adult, use adult words when you talk about male reproductive organs.
In reply to Dr. Wolfgang
Most of these waiters and waitresses are students in college trying to make ends meet. Therefore, your ignorance in calling them uneducated and not tipping them because you some how think you are above them; is deserving of saliva filled entrée. Shame on all of you for thinking you are superior to any of our hard working college students or those just simply trying to provide for their families. I respect anyone willing to work hard for their wages. At least they are working and not asking for a hand out.
In reply to KNDC
1. Waiting tables is not hard work. Period. Several of the people here who think tipping is BS have done waiting and say so.
2. If they are trying to take care of their family, they are doing a shit job of it if they refuse to get a better job and put in REAL work. They are setting a poor example for their children by begging for unearned money and playing the victim instead of taking responsibility.
3. Tipping perpetuates the poor wages and pushes the blame on the customer. If you think server’s poor wages are wrong, then you need to stop tipping so the restaurants have to step up to their responsibility.
In reply to Dr. Wolfgang
May karma reach you in the most unexpected and yet most well deserved way
In reply to $Bill
I’m a server. I’m educated, attractive, skilled, talented….and honestly, someone like you isn’t even worth it. You can keep your disgusting money. Ew.
In reply to Adrianna
If you’re so great, why don’t you get a different job, instead of defending the asinine tradition of tipping which is money that you are NOT legally entitled to?
In reply to james ngyugen
You’re just showing exactly why you DON’T deserve to be tipped.
In reply to Fredric
I guess I’m an uneducated slob compared to you, as I only have a 4 year degree (BS Chem E) from an admittedly second-rate school (Cal Berkeley). However, I delivered pizza in my community college days, and was fortunate enough to have parents that taught me some manners, and before college I spent 6 years in the US Air Force, where young men (and women) were expected to be professional and learn manners as well. My typical restaurant tip is between 20% and 25%, and even above that when I receive great service. The places I frequent are always happy to see me, I never get stuck in a corner, the waiters and staff are attentive and always treating me to extras. Bhagwad/Frederic: you’re not special. You’re simply ill-bred louts with no manners or class. Need I say more?
In reply to Stan Rothwell
Tipping has nothing to do with finishing school. A fool and their money are soon parted. Only a fucking moron tips.
In reply to $Bill
Agreed. Why should someone tip when it’s not legally required? Only a fool or a pushover thinks they should feel obligated to continue this ridiculous practice.
In reply to Fredric
You cunt. I am a full time waiter and I average over $20 an hour, I’m a good person with a college education: this is just where I am now, it takes allot more than you think to keep your cool with the public. I deserve to be tipped for my services and if you can’t afford to tip and disguise it as something else your a poor Freddy individual, go to McDonalds
In reply to Matt
You act like an entitled little boy. You think you should be tipped for your services? The services you provide are nothing but your unskilled job description stupid. You don’t deserve any extra money.
Waiting on an important wealthy person such as myself should be a great honor for you. I never tip the hired help.
In reply to $Bill
Most of these waiters and waitresses are students in college trying to make ends meet. Therefore, your ignorance in calling them uneducated and not tipping them because you some how think you are above them; is deserving of saliva filled entrée. Shame on all of you for thinking you are superior to any of our hard working college students or those just simply trying to provide for their families. I respect anyone willing to work hard for their wages. At least they are working and not asking for a hand out.
Stay home and eat cheapskate!
In reply to KNDC
I pay the bill, not your wages. I am not your employer dumbass.
In reply to $Bill
You’re nobody’s employer. In fact you’re nobody. Just some pussy troll.
In reply to $Bill
$Bill you are no one’s employer we get it. In addition to that YOU are no one. Just some pussy troll.
In reply to $Bill
You, sir, are probably not as important as you think you are.
As someone else stated above, by not tipping you’re taking advantage of the gratuity system when you eat out. I’m not arguing whether or not you SHOULD tip (you most certainly should) but the server is serving you on the assumption that they will be tipped 15-20% of the bill as a courtesy. Some servers (I’ve only ever worked in busy restaurants, so idk about others) constantly are running around between 5+ tables, some are uniquely demanding. You sir, as a patron, are benefitted by the hope of a tip that you won’t give them. Servers are capable of providing good service that isn’t over-the-top, and is “worthy” of $2.13/hour. Essentially, tell your servers you don’t believe in tipping because their job is easy, and you’ll receive exactly the type of effort you think they put it.
Lastly, no one is honored by meeting you. Meeting you doesn’t pay bills. Meeting you doesn’t help me finish my degree. You aren’t that important, if you were, you’d be using your real name $Bill.
In reply to Landron
The fact that they assume they will be tipped is part of the problem. Their assumption isn’t justified, and in most of the world is outright absurd. Even by the definition of the term gratuity, the assumption is absurd.
It’s their responsibility to pay their bills, and, if their choice in job doesn’t allow them to do that, it is on them. There is no contract with the patron, there is only their agreed upon wage from their employer and no intelligent person would assume they would get more money from a person who is not their employer just for doing the job their employer pays them to do. Nor should anyone expect to pay their bills with a job that takes no special skill to do.
There is no justification for tipping, least of all the expectation of one.
In reply to Landron
I’m starting to think $Bill is just some loser living in his mom’s basement who spends his time trolling and jerking off.
In reply to Landron
I will say it again. I am not your employer.
$2.13 an hour you are full of shit. With or without tips you make federal minimum-wage
http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm
In reply to $Bill
$Bill you’re no one’s employer. In fact YOU are no one. Just some pussy with a smart phone who lives in his mom’s basement.
In reply to Landron
I don’t speak to the hired help, except to give them my drink and dinner order.
In reply to $Bill
Bartended this weekend for a non profit event all tips and my wages went to the charity.
This is how easy your industry is. I smiled. Asked how I can help you, listened, then with one whole arm I would poor the beer. I would use my legs and walk back to them and exchange for their currency. Thank them for the contribution and proceeded to the next customer.
Here’s my breakdown a day in the service industries shoes.
Scale of 1-10
Physical exhaustion – 2
(fast walk) swift but precise hand movements to not spill too much.
Mental Exhaustion- 2
Reminding people that all tips and wages that day were going to the vets and service animals, was a little monotonous. I don’t like sounding like a robot and doing the same thing over and over.
Stress- 1
I got someone’s drink wrong once out of maybe the 500+ customers I served that day.
I handled it promptly gave them the correct one and everyone was still happy.
Perks of the job.
Got a few girls numbers, one offered me a blowie and when I was off my shift a few of the vets said hi and gave me a little bit of their story.
The fact y’all feel entitled to tips is laughable. Definitely a job anyone can do.
In reply to $Bill
Billy boy get off that computer and finish your chores!
In reply to $Bill
I would hardly consider it an “honor” to be in the presence of such a scumbag as yourself. You are truly disgusting.
In reply to $Bill
Honestly I get paid $5.25 per hour, plus tips. Once, and I swear to God I did this, I messed up someones order really bad. I mean I really fucked up right. That evening I basically grovelled at their feet and they still tipped me. Know what I did? I gave that mone to management for having to deal with my fuck up and I begged them to drop my rate down to $3.00 per hour, for a week, and no gratuities. Well I was lucky, they dropped my rate down to $2.00 per hour for a MONTH, no tips for me AT ALL, and I CHARMED every table, AND I was a dishwasher after hours for 6 hours over night (between 1-7) just to go home and be back by 10 AM ( I was there at 9) and did it ALL over again. It made me feel better for fucking up my customers expectation of not good, but GREAT service.
In reply to Brad
If this story is even true you are a fool. Your employer MUST make up any difference you didn’t receive in tips so that you are pad at least $7.25/hour. If you live where I live in WA State you are guaranteed $11/hour, tipped or not.
In reply to Matt
$20 an hour my ass You probably ride a broken down bicycle to your silly teenager job.
In reply to Matt
By the way Matt. You sound like a strong strapping young gentleman. Can I suck your dick? I forgot to mention the only way I’ll tip a server is if he will let me suck his dick or will fuck me up the ass.
In reply to Gene
I like when cute boy servers in their tight uniforms and aprons smile at me. I want to suck their dick, and sometimes want to fuck them up the ass. If they don’t move on my advances, they get no tip. If they start crying or look angries that turns me on and I jackoff in their bathroom and spew on the floor knowing they have to mop it up, and they like it, and smile while doing it.
In reply to Fredric
*an
Sincerely,
An “Uneducated” Server with No Skills
In reply to Fredric
Wtf is wrong with you? Have you ever bee a waiter? Calling us unskilled is makes you the biggest dick head in the world. We don choose our wage. There is nothing we can do because that’s the way it is! That’s why we rely on tips. Now if you get poor service, don’t tip because they didn’t earn it. But to say it’s not a hard job is fuckjng ridiculous and you should be ashamed of yourself. I’m a full time college student with 2 jobs and bills and cousins to baby sit. Memorizing a long ass menu, keeping up with 10+ tables and keeping your ungrateful ass happy. If you have an issue with tipping don’t go out to eat you piece of shit. And I understand if tipping is hard because of money issues, but if that’s the case WHY TF ARE YOU GOING OUT TO EAT. If you can afford to by your snobby ass some food, you can spare $5 for the person who worked hard to make your experience nice. Fuck you
In reply to Caroline
Being a server requires no skill at all. It’s not the customers fault you chose a minimum wage job. I will never tip a servant. It should be an honor just being in my presence. Luckily for me, I won’t have to ever meet you. I only dine in upper class establishments and I’m sure you work at Denny’s, Applebee’s or some other shithole.
In reply to Caroline
WTF is wrong with you? If you think waiting tables is a hard job, how the hell do you get dressed in the morning? Memorizing a “long ass menu”? How the hell did you manage to get into college if memorization is so difficult for you?
It’s unskilled by definition because unskilled labor is any work that does not require a formal education. You don’t need to go to school to become a waiter. You can quite literally walk in off the street and do it. They actually train monkeys to do it (seriously).
The things you are doing in your life are your prerogative, but they are certainly no reason to pay you for a job you are already paid to do. The fact that you are going to college, or babysitting your cousin’s kids in no way qualifies you for extra money just for doing your job. Whenever people start spouting crap like that, all I can think of is those people standing on the corner with a sign about how sad their life is, except in this case you HAVE A JOB and are panhandling.
You absolutely do choose your wage. When an employer offers you a job, they tell you how much you will be paid. If you don’t like it, you don’t take the job. If you take the job you are making the choice to accept that wage. It’s a simple concept. If you keep working there, you continue to accept that wage. Nobody is making you do it. You aren’t legally obligated to accept it in the first place, let alone stay. If you don’t like your minimum wage job, don’t keep it. Simple as. Same reason people quit McDonald’s or BK all the damn time.
In reply to What a joke
Yes this EXACTLY. I live in WA State where everyone gets $11/hour minimum, tipped or not. So here tipping is especially unjustified.
In reply to Fredric
In the U.S., waiters are compensated through tips. The people who do tip subsidize the service provided to the deadbeats who don’t.
People who rationalize stiffing their waiter are either ignorant of how the system works (because they are often from countries where waiters are salaried), or they simply lack class.
I’m not a waiter, and never have been. But I always tip, at least 20%, and will continue to, to offset the cheap and tasteless apologsist deadbeats who leave excuses instead of a tip.
In reply to Dave
In the US, waiters are compensated by their employers like everyone else.
“If an employee’s tips combined with the employer’s direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the Federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference.” https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm (note this is the Department of Labor)
People who rationalize tipping their waiter are either ignorant of how the system works, or simply lack intelligence.
Haha this guy is a faggot nobody gives a shit about you and not tipping go fuck yourself ?
In reply to Andrew
Wow name calling. Something I would expect my 5 year old to do. You must be one of the grossly immature types that still runs his life by zero f’s givin.
Only a douchebag would eat in a restaurant, or use any kind of service person and not tip.
In reply to Jack Tipper
So you tip your cashier at Walmart? The guy who takes your order at McDonald’s?
How about your doctors and nurses? By definition they are service sector. Do you give them 15-20% on top of your medical bills? How about your tax preparer? Also service sector.
I can guarantee you don’t tip every person in the service sector.
Tipping, by it’s very definition, is optional. There is absolutely no justification for it.
In reply to What a joke
There is only one justifiable reason for not tipping.
Because you’re a jerkoff.
If you want to be a jerkoff that’s your prerogative…Jerkoff.
In reply to Jack Tipper
I love how you didn’t respond to any of his questions, but instead resorted to childish name-calling. Doesn’t really help your “argument.”
In reply to Jack Tipper
Only a doushbag would leave a tip. I don’t waste my money.
In reply to Jack Tipper
I’m at a restaurant right now. The check is $113.00
I am leaving zero tip. That is exactly what a waitress is worth.
In reply to Gene
Prove it.
In reply to Ken
$113 bill is nothing unusual. Since you can’t post pictures, how do you expect Gene to prove it?
I think it is ridiculous a person would leave a 20% tip ($22.60) on that check. I would have left zero as well.
In reply to $Bill
Exactly $Bill. You can’t post pictures. Which leads me to believe you are just some loser who lives in his mom’s basement.
In reply to Ken
Are you retarded or mentally disabled? The reasoning you use to develop your hypothesis based upon the inability to post pictures makes absolutely no sense.
In reply to $Bill
My point is $Bill with a pseudo name like $Bill and no way to post proof of who you are you can basically make yourself out to be whoever you want to be. I personally think you’re a troll who beats off to pictures of his own mother. But of course I could be wrong.
In reply to Ken
Whatever helps you sleep at night, Kenny. 95% of the world thinks American tipping is asinine, and 85%+ doesn’t tip at all, or only tips a small amount for rare, exceptional service, but obviously anyone who doesn’t like tipping must be a basement dwelling troll lol
$Bill isn’t a server, so obviously he’s not living in his parents’ basement. Otherwise he’d be here whining for money he hasn’t earned, too.
In reply to What a joke
Sounds like you and $Bill just might be the same person. Whoever you are your numbers are obviously inaccurate or the tipping industry would be obsolete by now. Now go back to your mom’s basement and continue jerking off to those pictures of your mom.
In reply to Ken
That’s some faulty logic you have there. Tipping isn’t an industry in most of the world, and even in places where tipping was once common it’s becoming less and less so. Even in the US, more and more places are getting rid of tipping.
But like I said, whatever helps you sleep at night.
In reply to What a joke
Faulty logic is bringing the rest of the world into it. Not sure that’s the issue at hand. And how do you know $Bill doesn’t live in his mom’s basement? Do you know $Bill? Are you $Bill?
In reply to Ken
Nope, I’m not $Bill, but he has talked about things that poor people don’t generally understand. I’d know, I grew up poor.
However, once I was old enough, I took responsibility for my own life and did something about it. I didn’t sit and whine about how the world owes me for shit. I got my life together, went to college as a single father without asking for people to give me money I didn’t earn (which tips most definitely are).
You haven’t offered a single legitimate reason for tipping, just a bunch of excuses offered by tipped employees as to why they think they deserve money they don’t earn. The vast majority of the world sees it that way, too. In fact, several countries (like Japan) see tipping as an insult, which it originally was. The fact that employers have convinced servers that customers are the cause of their financial woes just shows how dumb those employees are, and how willing they are to push the blame on anyone but themselves.
If you buy into tipping, you’re either a con artist trying to convince people to give you money you haven’t earned, or a rube they’re targeting who is too dumb to realize it’s all a scam and there’s no legitimacy to it.
In reply to What a joke
Thank you so much for setting all of us straight. My first job in college was as a pizza delivery driver. Since I didn’t earn that money, I’m gonna go back to every person who tipped me and give that money back. And since I “didn’t earn” the money I paid for college with perhaps I should give back my degree and all my earnings associated with it. I too was a single father. I drove a limo on weekends to pay court costs, child support and to basically be able to take better care of my kid. If you believe I should’ve taken a straight hourly job in my extra time at half the pay then obviously that’s your opinion. I took the most lucrative opportunity at the time and made the best of it. Not once have I felt I “didn’t earn it”.
In reply to Ken
It’s not an opinion. You’re a flat out mooch. You absolutely didn’t earn that money. You carried food! People in fast food do more work than that, and they sure as hell don’t get paid extra just for doing it!
The fact that you gamed the system is exactly proof of the problem. There is absolutely no reason you should have earned more than minimum wage at such a simple job, and no justification for it, and certainly no justification for perpetuating a broken system. It’s absolute insanity, and con artists like you insisting people pay you to do a job you are already being paid to do should be thrown in prison and given hard labor to show what actually working hard is like.
In reply to What a joke
That’s your opinion. And a stupid one. You’re no better than me you dipshit. You never will be. Go fuck yourselves you useless pussy.
In reply to What a joke
Perhaps I’ll neglect to tip your mother the next time I have sex with her. Wouldn’t want to support a mooch.
In reply to Ken
Dear God! Why would you have sex with my elderly, morbidly obese mother with incontinence, let alone pay for it?! I wouldn’t tip your lazy ass, let alone expect you to tip for that.
I guess whatever floats your boat, though.
Either way, if ad hominem is all you have, it just proves you have no basis for your argument.
However, I do.
Article on why you should feel bad for tipping: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/18/i-dare-you-to-read-this-and-still-feel-ok-about-tipping-in-the-united-states/
In reply to Ken
You basically just said that you pay for sex. Why are you trying to talk about ethics?
In reply to What a joke
I don’t believe one word this jerk-off says. I doubt he makes more than minimum wage. The clown doesn’t tip because he simply can’t afford it. Besides you don’t tip the guy who serves you up at McDonald’s anyway. You don’t tip $2 for your $1 McDouble.
Fking douchebag
In reply to Jack Tipper
Haha I don’t honestly care what you believe. It’s funny how the same people who complain about the 1% being greedy don’t believe anyone who has earned their living refuses to give their hard-earned cash to somebody for doing a job they’re already paid to do.
Meanwhile most of the world doesn’t tip, millennials tip less than the average (which is already pretty low), and there’s a growing movement from both sides of politics to get rid of tipping, with the number of restaurants and cities banning tipping growing each year. Hell, in Delaware less than 40% of people tip. kitchenette.jezebel.com/which-states-tip-the-best-and-which-dont-tip-at-all-1548841134
In reply to What a joke
First of all, I don’t complain about the 1% being greedy. Most of the 1% do tip . You get your occasional douchebag but that is to be expected. I’m not even complaining if YOU don’t want to tip. I told you already my man. If you want to be the world’s biggest douchebag, that is your right, but don’t be surprised when you ingest some vaginal ketchup at the restaurant frequent, because you keep making the waitresses cry by putting a $50 bill on the table to make her think she is getting a big tip, only to snatch it away at the end of the meal. Do not be mad if some clown blows snot on your burger.
You should check out the YouTube videos on this subject. There are a lot of them and these are just the ones who got caught… For everyone that gets caught there are a thousand that don’t. One girl actually stuck a hotdog in her vagina before serving it to her customer. The other one put some of that special sauce you can only get one time a month on her customers burger.
It happens.
In reply to Jack Tipper
Yeah, you’re still welcome to prove that not tipping makes anyone a douchebag, since we’ve already proven why tipping DOES.
If a server’s life choices make them cry they should probably make better life choices.
As for YouTube videos on the subject, here’s one: https://youtu.be/q_vivC7c_1k
In reply to Ken
Considering the fact that most of your posts contain inappropriate childish references to incest and jerking off. It is very clear your level of education is very low, and you are a very unhappy serving wench.
I think you are very jealous of people like me that can afford to dine at exclusive restaurants anytime I want. I see you staring at my Audi R8, and my platinum Rolex. You are a jealous little puke that wishes he was me.
So instead of getting a real job. You complain about people like me that don’t tip you because you are so financially dependent on the kindness of others. Begging for Tips is only one step above begging for change on a street corner.
Your job is very unskilled and simple. It is not deserving of any extra money. I am not your employer. If you are unhappy with your pathetic pay get a real job. You are not a teenager anymore. Time for you to grow the fuck up.
In reply to $Bill
I can’t help but laugh at your post. Bragging about all the things you have. How childish. I have a Rolex too. It was gifted to me, by 2 of my regular Friday evening guests. I love my job and make LOTS of money doing it! All while uneducated. The funny part about that education….a very close friend of my has a very costly, Bachelors in Criminal Justice, from O.S.U. She don got her one of them fancy jobs, where your name goes on the wall. She HATES it! But me? I LOVE my job! I make more than her and I have NO school debt. Who’s the dummy?
In reply to Ken
Considering the fact that most of your posts contain inappropriate childish references to incest and jerking off. It is very clear your level of education is very low, and you are a very unhappy serving wench.
I think you are very jealous of people like me that can afford to dine at exclusive restaurants anytime I want. I see you staring at my Audi R8, and my platinum Rolex. You are a jealous little puke that wishes he was me.
So instead of getting a real job. You complain about people like me that don’t tip you because you are so financially dependent on the kindness of others. Begging for Tips is only one step above begging for change on a street corner.
Your job is very unskilled and simple. It is not deserving of any extra money. I am not your employer. If you are unhappy with your pathetic pay get a real job. You are not a teenager anymore. Time for you to grow the fuck up.
In reply to Ken
Considering the fact that most of your posts contain inappropriate childish references to incest and jerking off. It is very clear your level of education is very low, and you are a very unhappy serving wench.
I think you are very jealous of people like me that can afford to dine at exclusive restaurants anytime I want. I see you staring at my Audi R8, and my platinum Rolex. You are a jealous little puke that wishes he was me.
So instead of getting a real job. You complain about people like me that don’t tip you because you are so financially dependent on the kindness of others. Begging for Tips is only one step above begging for change on a street corner.
Your job is very unskilled and simple. It is not deserving of any extra money. I am not your employer. If you are unhappy with your pathetic pay get a real job. You are not a teenager anymore. Time for you to grow Up.
In reply to What a joke
First of all, don’t pull numbers out of thin air. Being a server, I can tell you that most people do tip. If you’re going to argue, at least get the numbers right. Second, if the American people really don’t like the system, why is there not a petition of some sort to change it? This country put this system in place, so if, as an individual, you do not like said system, don’t go out to eat. A restaurant is a place to go where you don’t have to do anything. You’re being taken care of. Servers are a crucial part of that well oiled machine, and if you don’t want to pay for it, make your own food at home.
In reply to Lucretia Baker
First, I’m not pulling numbers out of thin air. The only country in the world that doesn’t think America’s tipping system is absurd is basically America, which makes up 4.4% of the world population. I rounded up.
Second, there are petitions, and movements from both political sides to get rid of tipping. There has always been a movement from EDUCATED people to get rid of it. In the 1900s laws were passed to ban tipping, but then repealed because they simply couldn’t enforce it – after all, tipping isn’t a REQUIREMENT, it is, by its very definition, voluntary (as reinforced by the IRS and the courts). Tipping originated as a way of showing off money by the wealthy in Europe, and it was considered very un-American, so people didn’t think it was right. Since they couldn’t get people to stop tipping, they put the system in place (that you mentioned) around when they first introduced minimum wage as a way to say that employers could reduce the amount of pay their employees got to offset what they were getting in tips. In other words, the tip credit was produced to ensure servers didn’t get “more than what they earned.” However, over time social pressure and absurd misconceptions allowed employers to push the view of responsibility onto the customer. Meanwhile, the rest of the world almost never tips, or only tips a small amount for very exceptional service.
People believe tipping should be banned for all sorts of reasons, regardless of whether they’re founded in fact or misinformation (interestingly, the misinformed tend to be those who believe that servers ONLY make $2.13 an hour by law):
“Why Tipping Should Be Illegal” – Esquire http://www.esquire.com/food-drink/restaurants/a23132/why-tipping-should-be-illegal-15603180/
” I dare you to read this and still feel good about tipping” – The Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/18/i-dare-you-to-read-this-and-still-feel-ok-about-tipping-in-the-united-states/
“Why Tipping Is Wrong” – The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/opinion/why-tipping-is-wrong.html
“The case against tipping” – The Economist
“Behind the Move to Ban Tipping” – The Wall Street Journal https://www.wsj.com/articles/behind-the-move-to-ban-tipping-1447206602
“When Tipping Was Considered Deeply Un-American” – NPR http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/
“Why Tipping Should Be Banned” – Adam Ruins Everything https://youtu.be/q_vivC7c_1k
There’s no legitimate reason to perpetuate this ridiculous system, and the movement to get rid of it is growing more each year, and more places are getting rid of it either in restaurants, or even city wide.
In reply to Lucretia Baker
Reasons tipping should go away.
1. Sexual harassment. How many time have any of you as a server been harassed, and you smiled, let it go, because you were afraid your patron wouldn’t tip. All because you need the tips that your management doesn’t cover in your wage?
2. As a professional, which some or all of you like to call yourselves. Why do you need to be tipped. Every professional I’ve ever met has never had to rely on someone else’s extra gratuity to do their job correctly. The customer either comes back to pay for service again, because they were happy with it. Or they don’t and your business closes from poor work ethics.
3. A majority of you server types feel like you belong on a pedestal and deserve this and that because you feel you work way harder then anyone else out there. However tipping is nature is demeaning. It basically says you’re my bitch and I’ll pay you if I feel you deserve it. I respect the guy or gal making normal minimum wage at Best Buy helping me with a purchase than someone I am supposedly supposed to tip and having to judge your actions during my service to figure out what you are worth.
The worker at bestbuy already knows they are hired to give customer satisfaction and help them. And also knows they are going to be paid no matter what because they were hired to give professional help.
4. I enjoy banging out bartenders because they think I’m their way out of the industry. However what I and anyone else who bang out the staff of restaurants think is they’re just a peice of ass and whenever I come into the establishment I can tell my guys which ones I dropped a load in. Honestly it’s because I can’t take someone seriously who relies on the opinions of the masses to pay their wages on the account of being fake and needing to please others even against their own morals. That just says you’re a weak person and not worth my effort.
In reply to Lucretia Baker
Being taken care of my butt. Waiting on me as your job. You are paid by your employer to serve me. I compensate the restaurant by paying extra money for my meal in the form of a high menu prices. Tipping you extra money for that is not my problem. Take it up with your employer.
In reply to Ken
Considering the fact that most of your posts contain inappropriate childish references to incest and jerking off. It is very clear your level of education is very low, and you are a very unhappy serving wench.
I think you are very jealous of people like me that can afford to dine at exclusive restaurants anytime I want. I see you staring at my Audi R8, and my platinum Rolex. You are a jealous little puke that wishes he was me.
So instead of getting a real job. You complain about people like me that don’t tip you because you are so financially dependent on the kindness of others. Begging for Tips is only one step above begging for change on a street corner.
Your job is very unskilled and simple. It is not deserving of any extra money. I am not your employer. If you are unhappy with your pathetic pay get a real job. You are not a teenager anymore. Time for you to grow the fuck up.
Yo, tipping really isnt supposed to be a expected thing. I earn my money. Who are to tell me what i should do with MY MONEY. I would give my money to a homeless person before i would someone that made the CHOICE to work for shit pay. I have worked for tips and you KNOW WHAT I DID? I QUIT AND GOT A BETTER JOB THAT PAYS MORE THAN ANY TIP THAT I GOT. Society is fucking with your heads. If it was law to pay tip, i wouldnt even question it. If its a question of ethics, im still thinking about the fact that i earned MY OWN MONEY. I will never let a motherfucker tell me what i have to do with MY MONEY. I already pay the government taxes and they havent accomplished shit. I mean how do you make the same mistakes in history? Ill tell you how….BY BEING A FUCKING TARD
$Bill, you are in no way important. No one talks like that!
Also, I’m a server that makes $70K a year and let me tell you a few things.
1. It’s not an unskilled job. Not many people can serve correctly.
2. Knowledge alone separates the men from the boys in the food world.
3. If you don’t tip in a country where that’s customary, you’re scum. Period.
4. If you want your dining costs to increase by 30% to pay staff better wages so be it.
5. Bill if I ever meet you or see you or wait on you I will pull your mouth open and shit into your throat.
In reply to I’m Better Than You
Haha man, you’re so full of shit.
“1. It’s not an unskilled job. Not many people can serve correctly.”
An unskilled job is, by definition, “generally characterized by a lower educational attainment, such as a high school diploma, GED or lack thereof, and typically results in smaller wages. Work that requires no specific education level or specialized experience is often available to the unskilled labor force.” http://www.investopedia.com/terms/u/unskilled-labor.asp
Waiting tables requires no formal education. They quite literally train monkeys to wait tables. People who can’t successfully wait tables are used as examples of people who are complete failures at life. And I don’t just mean people who don’t like tipping – if you tell anyone somebody can’t even wait tables without fucking up, the consensus is that person is incapable of even the most simple of tasks.
“2. Knowledge alone separates the men from the boys in the food world.”
Haha what? If you say so! Any asshole can walk in off the street, get a job, and in 3 months be a pro if they’re not complete failures at life.
“3. If you don’t tip in a country where that’s customary, you’re scum. Period.”
Between 37.9 and 61.1% of people leave tips, depending on which state you live in, with an average of 55.4% of tippers. This means that nearly half of all customers do not tip. At all. In some states, fewer people tip than do. There’s also a growing movement to completely ban tipping. https://qz.com/189458/the-united-states-of-tipping/
“4. If you want your dining costs to increase by 30% to pay staff better wages so be it.”
This is absolutely absurd. Per my prior link, the average tip is 16.1% nation wide. As things stand, by law a restaurant must pay a server the difference between the tipped minimum of $2.13 and the full Federal minimum of $7.25 if the server were to make absolutely nothing in tips. Even if they “needed” to raise prices to cover that, it’s $5.12 per hour per server. If a restaurant is decent at planning, this means at LEAST 4 tables active per server, and that amounts to $1.28 per table per hour. Even Red Robin, which is the cheapest chain restaurant nationally and only has tabs of around $12.17 per person, would only require 10.5% if you assumed only one person per table! Most restaurants wouldn’t need nearly that much of an increase. Nobody would even notice. http://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-it-costs-to-eat-at-resaurants-2015-3
In reply to I’m Better Than You
If you make 70,000 a year you are not a waiter. You are so funny. I think if you see $20,000 a year you’re lucky.
Your comment that menu prices need to go up by 30%, shows your education level is that of an elementary school child. With or without tips you need to make at least federal minimum-wage or state minimum wage whichever is higher. You are overpaid from the start.
Waiting tables is a job for teenagers, you’re not supposed to do this if you are an adult. You should think about getting a real job that pays adult money.
In reply to $Bill
Here in Vegas a waiter can make $70,000 a year if you works in the right restaurant. A doorman at the hotel like Bellagio or Encore or Caesars can make a hundred.
Why?
Because people who come to this city do not want to look like jerk-offs who don’t tip so they do it.
Anyone who doesn’t tip someone who provides them service is a complete and utter jerkoff.
Now you can go ahead and give me your snarky little reasons why you don’t do it. You can tell me how you believe you’re above everyone who works in the service industry because you have a degree in this a degree in that and you drive a Ferrari and blah blah blah blah
Bullshit.
You don’t tip because you are a cheap jerkoff plain and simple.
In reply to Jack Tipper
I think it’s adorable you imagine your opinion is any sort of justification for tipping since you can’t provide any valid argument lol
In reply to What a joke
You must be a non tipping jerkoff.
Look, I think being a jerkoff as a perfectly justifiable reason for not tipping. I just think if you go to restaurant you should be upfront about it, and tell them “ummmm hey, I’m a jerkoff, so I won’t be tipping tonight.”
I think that’s perfectly reasonable.
In reply to Jack Tipper
First you should understand what ad hominem is: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
Second, why would any intelligent person give their money away to someone who hasn’t earned it simple because they’ve been told to do it?
In reply to What a joke
Why would any intelligent person give their money away ?
Simple.
To avoid being a jerkoff.
Look man if you want to be a jerkoff and not tip, I’m cool with that.I just wish you jerkoffs would stop pretending like there’s another reason.
Servers are unskilled and they don’t deserve it.
They’re the bottom of the barrel, the dregs of society.
Why would I give money to anybody who does earn it? (They do fking earn it)
Bullshit bullshit bullshit.
Look I’m not saying you’re required to give money to anybody you don’t want to give money to. It’s your money do what you want with it. Make paper airplanes out of it. Go swim in it like Scrooge McDuck (who was a total jerkoff by the way).
Just stop pretending like you’re trying to make a statement. Stop pretending like you’re part of some movement. Some kind of anti gratuity Crusade.
It’s simple, and it only takes a second. I will help, repeat after me. I ( insert name here) am a cheap non tipping jerkoff.
That wasn’t so hard…
In reply to Jack Tipper
Only a jerkoff would tip.
See how that works?
In fact, I have the benefit of MY statement being backed by history of the topic, as well as, well, most of the world.
So, uhh, nice try? lol
Serving is unskilled labor, by definition. Seriously, any job at all that requires no formal education is unskilled. There are lots of unskilled jobs out there, but they don’t expect the CUSTOMER to pay them EXTRA for a job they’re already paid to do. They also range from just as easy to considerably more difficult. Doesn’t make them skilled though.
As for servers being the dregs of society, the main people who argue here absolutely believe it’s perfectly fine for high school students and college students to earn a little extra money with a minimum wage job like serving tables. That’s the whole reason we keep these jobs around.
The problem comes with people well past that point. People who expect the customer to make up for their choice in job by giving them money for something they are being paid to do. People who believe they should be able to do a job that is minimal effort (and waiting most definitely is) and yet make as much as people who actually put in the work to do something better.
I’m not some born-rich guy thinking poor people are poor by choice. I’ve been homeless and I can tell you it’s true, to an extent. They may not choose to end up in that position, but I have seen countless people stay in that position because they are enabled to. You can think I’m a jerkoff all you want, but by tipping you are not only perpetuating the system that allows them to be screwed over, you are allowing them to avoid doing something to improve their situation. That seems a lot more like a jerkoff to me.
In reply to What a joke
My man, I think you get paid by the hour to sit behind a computer and rant about what an injustice it is to have to give extra money to these bottom-feeding lowlifes who love being poor.
I told you mr. McDuck, if you want to be a jerkoff that’s your prerogative. This is a free country and if you want to be a douchebag you are well within your rights to do so.
It is my right to tell you what a bad person (jerkoff) you are for refusing to tip those who provide you a service.
You should find a new cause like fighting cancer or AIDS research… You better never try to run for office lol.
In reply to Jack Tipper
lol It’s amusing you think I get paid by the hour after I mentioned that people should put in hard work to make a living instead of expecting others to pick up the tab for them.
You can call me jerkoff all you like. It doesn’t make it true, and just shows you have no real argument to support it. I mean, you don’t even have reasoning for it, it’s literally just your opinion, which nobody anywhere cares about except you. You thinking anyone is a jerkoff absolutely makes no difference to anyone.
On the other hand, there is a significant movement to get rid of tipping which is growing every day. Which means the factually based view that tipping is for jackasses actually does have an affect.
Did you send your money to help out that poor, unfortunate, Nigerian Prince as well?
In reply to What a joke
If there is a significant movement to remove tipping in the United States it is having absolutely zero effect in the city of Las Vegas because good decent human beings are handing over tips left and right in this town.
Look if you want to make shiting on people you think are below you your cause, that is your prerogative as well, but in my opinion only a jerkoff would take up such a cause. And when it comes to jerkoffs my friend, you have proven yourself to be worthy of the crown. King of the jerkoffs how proud you must be.
Hey look at me I’ve taken douchebaggery to the next level. What a big masculine tough guy I am. My wiener is so miniscule and I’m so insecure I’m here online all day to brag about making girls who work in restaurants cry.
Smh
In reply to Jack Tipper
It isn’t shitting on anyone to not give them money for something they’re already paid to do, not for calling people out on their choice not to do something themselves about their situation.
But, hey, call us jerkoffs all you want if it helps you get through your day. It doesn’t really bother us one bit what you think since you can’t even justify it beyond your own, uneducated opinion lol
In reply to What a joke
I’m sorry, jerkoff, I just think that a normal man would be trying to bang the waitress not make her cry.
You MUST be a sexually frustrated Half- man with no libido. There’s no other explanation for behaving the way you do. I mean, who the hell makes it their goal to make a girl cry when they go to a restaurant? Most people are there to ea,t drink, and enjoy themselves.
Watch this (because my weiner is useless) I’m going to put a $50 bill on the table so she think she’s getting it, but at the end of the meal, right when she gets that happy look in her eyes because she thinks she is getting a big tip, I will take it, put it back in my pocket, and watch the tears flow from her minimum wage making retinas bwahahahahahahah!!!!!
Fking clown.
In reply to Jack Tipper
Strangers crying over their life choices isn’t my concern.
Pretty sad you think giving the waitress a tip would convince her to bang you. That’s actually worse than simply believing people should not get money they haven’t earned. But then, people who are married don’t need to hope that a waitress will take pity on them and fuck them, and the wealthy certainly wouldn’t lower themselves to banging conartists. lol
In reply to What a joke
Wealthy, middle-class, or poor, most men go for any woman they are attracted to, regardless of where she works. A normal rich man with a working wiener sees a hot waitress working for minimum wage plus tips as an easy target.
You are obviously not a normal man. I get the feeling you’ve never seen a naked girl that wasn’t on a computer screen.
LMAO@this pathetic jerkoff
In reply to Jack Tipper
Wow, you’re so insecure in your sexuality and “manliness” that you have to try to bone every female that walks past? No sense of loyalty? No faithfulness? And objectifying women?
And you’re calling US douchebags? lol
In reply to What a joke
Effect, not affect. Someone who spends so much time bragging about himself should at least learn proper grammar, fyi.
In reply to Nicholaus Gaston
Autocorrect isn’t great at context, but Google ad hominem if you want to learn something yourself! lol
In reply to Nicholaus Gaston
Oh yeah this guy likes to brag about his wealth and his Ferraris and blah blah blah blah.
You know this douchebag is in his mom and dad’s basement.
Firstly, waiting tables can be a tough job. I did it all through college and although I make a very comfortable living at the moment, I wont ever forget those sweaty, sticky nights running around in the service of of crude morons who talk to and treat you with the same attitude displayed throughout this article/comment section.
Secondly, I would never, repeat NEVER spit in a customer’s food. What’s the point in working up a nice salty sweat just to have it seep into your pants?
Ass fingers was my favorite was to give rude customers that little extra flavor they deserved. I knew many fellow workmaktes who preferred to deploy some bio-weapon based revenge in the form of a sneeze, or rough chesty gag, but for me there’s no better way to keep a shift interesting than to watch some obnoxious dunce cram fork fulls of my nasty raw ass tang into his literally shit eating mouth. I thoroughly recommend it to anyone still working in the industry. :)
In reply to Damon
You are the perfect reason why people should never tip.
In reply to Damon
lol. that is fucking gross. Although I did work in a place once where on the rare occasion that someone deserved a ‘sneezer’, or a spit burger than their food would be passed to the person on duty who had been most recently ill or was coming down with something. I never did it because you never know, maybe you just caught the customer on a bad day. But I have seen guys nearly push their fingers down to the back of their throat to get the mucus.
Thought it was pretty nasty because the person could have kids, or old family members they could pass that shit on to.
In reply to Sarah
‘Although I did work in a place once where on the rare occasion that someone deserved a ‘sneezer’, or a spit burger than their food would be passed to the person on duty who had been most recently ill or was coming down with something. But I have seen guys nearly push their fingers down to the back of their throat to get the mucus.’
Holy shit.
In reply to Damon
Douche bags like you are the reason I refuse to tip. You act like a little entitled bitch. Just because you walk 20 feet from the kitchen to my table with my food you think you’re entitled to a 20% tip. You’re just an unskilled bitch. You are nothing special.
Nothing you do is worth extra money. Your job is not even necessary. There’s no reason we can’t go to the kitchen and get her own food, but they have to employ people like you that can’t get real jobs.
In reply to Damon
I can tell you what my man. I live in Las Vegas where a good percentage of the people work in the service industry. I’ve had friends who were waiters in some of the most high-end hotels on the strip, but you would still be surprised how willing these people are to drop spit, shit, and/or anything else that can find in the food of a known stiff.
You can get away with it once or twice in a restaurant but if you become known to a kitchen/ wait staff staff as a repeat offender… Trust me buddy there is a great chance you’ve ingested somebody’s piss, or spit, or god knows what else.
In reply to Jack Tipper
I am the general manager and representative of several high-end restaurants on the strip.
Because customer service and safety is the cornerstone of our business, we have cameras watching food preparation areas. If we ever caught an employee tampering with food or drink, I promise you we will do more than just legally prosecute the offender.
The health of our customers is paramount, and ingrained into our code of standards.
In reply to Sean Claude
From Vegas and you work on the strip?
Ok, a little test.
What is the worst southbound I-15 Freeway entrance to get on in the afternoon between sunset and Charleston? And why is it the worst entrance?
What did they just install right in front of Caesars Palace within the last week?
I know for a fact that Waiters in Las Vegas are quick to blow their nose on a plate if they know they are serving a known stiff.
In reply to Jack Tipper
Hmm, i see opportunity here.
1. Go to the same restaurant multiple times.
2. Refuse to tip every time.
3. When you get the idea you get recognised, dont eat your order, but take it with you.
4. Have the food tested.
5. Sue said restaurant when spit/snot/piss/shit is found in your food.
6. Watch how slowly all the entitled waiters lose their already insignificant jobs.
In reply to Whatever
That might actually work, but think about this. First you will have to stiff so many times that you KNOW you for sure you are a repeat offender. Then you have to go out and have your 5th or 6th meal tested. This is when you find out you have human feces in your food, and you’ve eaten it five times… Is the money really worth it, especially when you know the restaurant’s lawyer will certainly say you put whatever was in the food there yourself in order to sue? You might not win.
I’m not saying not to try it. I just think it’s a little risky.
In reply to Jack Tipper
lol You know feces has DNA in it, right?
Saliva, too.
In reply to What a joke
Then they tested and find out that it is canine DNA. Then what?
In reply to Jack Tipper
Given that most restaurants have cameras now it wouldn’t be hard to prove the customer didn’t do it.
Even if they don’t have camera evidence, in the case of a civil suit it’s not a matter of innocent until proven guilty, nor a requirement to prove beyond reasonable doubt. All they have to do is convince a judge that the restaurant is responsible. Hell, without camera evidence on their side, the restaurant is almost guaranteed to be viewed as the responsibile party. Especially with the number of restaurants where things test positive for fecal matter.
A judge is going to find it hard to believe a person managed to walk into a restaurant with dog shit and put it in their own food, or that they’d be willing to even do it.
Meanwhile, even if they lost the case the restaurant’s reputation would be ruined, and the staff would likely lose their jobs either due to closure or the restaurant trying to restore it’s reputation.
It’s a no loss situation.
Giving tip to the waiter or waitress is not mandatory. No one ask you anyway, I worked before in the restaurant and I feel very shy when they are gave me a tip. Obviously, the reason of tipping is when you are happy with the service right? if not, no one deserve a tip and don’t give a tip anyway.
In reply to Mary Ann
The only thing worse than a waitress is a bartender who expects me to tip a dollar just because he opened a beer that I bought.
I HATE the comments on this from servers. Either I tip, or my food and drink gets spit in or worse? Dirty plates and glasses on purpose?! I actually love tipping, but this makes me never want to tip again. I didn’t know I was forced. I know about servers not being paid enough minimum wage wise, but threatening to hurt customers if they don’t help you is beyond crazy. I am paying, to even BE there and you’re supposed to serve.
I thought the author was ridiculous, but not after reading some of these comments.
In reply to Beth Ann
There are some OK comments from servers just trying to defend serving, but so many are viscous. Still, no one is owed anything. I’m ‘owed’ because I paid for it.
In reply to Beth Ann
Oh god, I take it the 2nd comment back. Servers are just insane.
Call me crazy but all of you lifeless insecure tiny men need to get girlfriends.
Maybe you should try and bang the waitress instead of making her cry over a tip.
Fking clowns, smh.
In reply to Jack Tipper
That’s good advice for yourself! haha
Most of us are married to women who appreciate a hard working man who makes a good living and can provide for them, though. Oh, and that aren’t dumb enough to hand our money over to people who haven’t earned it. You don’t get wealthy by giving your money away.
In reply to Jack Tipper
I really think you should grow up and get a real job. You do realize being a waiter is a job for a teenager don’t you? This is not a job that you should have as an adult.
I would never bang the waitress because she is the hired help. The hired help should be seen and not heard
I don’t tip, because I see no value in what the waitress does All she is is a conveyor belt from the kitchen to my table. Unskilled simple job.