{"id":1206,"date":"2009-09-30T03:00:23","date_gmt":"2009-09-30T10:00:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bhagwad.com\/blog\/?p=1206"},"modified":"2010-11-05T01:01:00","modified_gmt":"2010-11-04T19:31:00","slug":"equality-of-men-and-women-proving-it-in-court","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bhagwad.com\/blog\/2009\/rights-and-freedoms\/equality-of-men-and-women-proving-it-in-court.html\/","title":{"rendered":"Equality of Men and Women &#8211; Proving it in Court"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I learnt a couple of days back that the Mumbai High Court has asked the Womanist Organization of India (WOI) to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dnaindia.com\/mumbai\/report_prove-that-women-are-equal-to-men-bombay-hc_1293282\" target=\"_blank\">prove that men and women are equal<\/a>. Apparently according to Maharashtra law, women cannot work in shops and bars after 9:30 pm and the WOI says that this is discriminatory and prevents women from obtaining employment on the same footing as men.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The Senior inspector of Police has told the court that waitresses and singers \u201ccan never be equated with women in other fields.\u201d He\u2019s also said that these women can be exploited and this goes against public interest and society (he forgot to mention the women in question though.) Now here\u2019s the interesting bit: The court has asked WOI to \u201cprovide documentary evidence\u201d that men and women are equal.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">This is very unusual. The organization will of course have to decide which aspect of \u201cequality\u201d it wants to prove. Women and men are of course not equal in everything. Physically for example. Even in non discriminatory physical sports, men and women tournaments have different rules. Like tennis for example. But in my view, the particular sort of \u201cequality\u201d in this case is the right to opportunity. The law effectively says that women cannot be offered the same opportunities that men are offered and are thus placed at a disadvantage.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Also, the inspector\u2019s comment is outrageous. What the hell does he mean by saying that waitresses and singers \u201ccan never be equated with women in other fields?\u201d Are they some inferior sort of women? In what way? Do they deserve less dignity? And who is he to decide? In my opinion, <em>he<\/em> has to provide documentary evidence that they are not the same. The burden of proof is his.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It\u2019s also an insult to women in that it implies that they can\u2019t take care of themselves. We\u2019re talking about adults here and no one is forcing a woman to work after 9:30 pm if she doesn\u2019t want to. If it\u2019s risky, then as an adult she has to make the decision as to whether or not she wants to go ahead. This is like the health department making a law saying \u201cyou cannot touch fire. It\u2019s risky.\u201d  We already know that and can take care of ourselves thank you very much. And of course, we\u2019re back to the old inanity of \u201cpublic morality\u201d which was touted during the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhagwad.com\/blog\/tag\/article-377\">hearings for the reading down of Article 377<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">As usual, I had a devil of a time trying to find the case on the Mumbai High Court\u2019s website \u2013 mainly because you have to search with exactly the right parameters and they\u2019re so many of them. But I managed to at last. Here\u2019s the screenshot of the case (Click to Enlarge):<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<div id=\"attachment_1238\" style=\"width: 547px;\">\n<figure id=\"attachment_1238\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1238\" style=\"width: 460px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhagwad.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/Men-Women-Equality.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1238  \" title=\"Men and Women Equality before the Bombay High Court\" src=\"http:\/\/www.bhagwad.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/Men-Women-Equality.jpg\" alt=\"Men and Women Equality before the Bombay High Court\" width=\"470\" height=\"253\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bhagwad.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/Men-Women-Equality.jpg 1119w, https:\/\/www.bhagwad.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/Men-Women-Equality-300x161.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.bhagwad.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/Men-Women-Equality-1024x550.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 470px) 100vw, 470px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1238\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Men and Women Equality before the Bombay High Court<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The case will next be taken up on the 16th of October 2009. At least I think it is. The official listing says 16\/10\/2008 which I presume is some sort of typo. Here it is:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<div id=\"attachment_1239\" style=\"width: 514px;\">\n<figure id=\"attachment_1239\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1239\" style=\"width: 494px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1239 \" title=\"Next Hearing Date\" src=\"http:\/\/www.bhagwad.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/Next-Hearing.jpg\" alt=\"Next Hearing Date\" width=\"504\" height=\"98\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bhagwad.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/Next-Hearing.jpg 630w, https:\/\/www.bhagwad.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/Next-Hearing-300x58.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 504px) 100vw, 504px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1239\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Next Hearing Date<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Am I happy that the court has asked the WOI to prove that men and women are equal (In whatever sense of the word)? Yes and no. Yes because once the concept is proved in court, it\u2019s set down in black and white for all time and can be quoted in every case from this case forth without further argument. It will help expedite the removal of many more discriminatory laws. No because it seems that the right to equal opportunity is obvious and the court needn\u2019t ask for it to be proved.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Unfortunately, \u201cequality\u201d isn\u2019t something that is taken for granted in Indian society. Look how much Naz had to fight for the decriminalization of homosexuality when it should have been obvious. It\u2019s possible that the court is trying to cover it\u2019s tracks by being impartial and taking up the case from first principles to create an unassailable position. If so, then it\u2019s the right thing to do. I hope it\u2019s not because the Judges are prejudiced and have decided to try and make a fool of WOI and brand them a nuisance. But given the high credentials of our High Courts in general and looking at historical evidence, I\u2019m inclined to think the best of them.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I\u2019ll keep you guys updated on this case as and when court proceedings take place \u2013 and if they get delayed to a future date, I\u2019ll post a brief note for that as well so you won\u2019t be left hanging.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">What do <em>you<\/em> think about this issue? Take the Poll:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">[poll id=&#8221;7&#8243;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I learnt a couple of days back that the Mumbai High Court has asked the Womanist Organization of India (WOI) to prove that men and women are equal. 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