It never fails to shock me how a tip is demanded in the US. People simply refuse to listen to reason when we (yes, there are others!) tell them that leaving a tip isn’t necessary. Well, I’m hoping for too much here, but if you’re a waiter, here are 5 reasons why I will try my best not to give any money to you and why the reasons for tipping are crappy.
1. You act as if you’re my best friend
Just leave me alone ok? I don’t want to bloody chit chat with you. I want food. FOOD! Get it? It’s a restaurant. I go there to eat. I go because I want either Italian food, Chinese Food or something else which I can’t get in a McDonald’s. So I come to a restaurant to fulfill my cravings for it. I will pay for what I value – food. Not you.
Christ, you offend me – kneeling down next to my table, pretending to like me and chatting as if you’re my best friend when it’s obvious that all you’re after is the tip! I’m not a bloody money bag you know. I will pay the bill which includes the cost of the food, the environment and the salaries of the people involved – nothing more.
The only way to get money out of me that I don’t have to legally pay is by prying it out of my cold dead hands…
Bottom line: I don’t want to know your name, or interact with you for any longer than I have to in order to place my order. As far as I’m concerned, you’re the equivalent of a conveyor belt that brings me my food and a computer into which I input my order. Of course, I won’t be rude. But don’t expect me to interact with you any more than I would with some stranger.
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2. You don’t get paid enough
And this is my problem how exactly? It’s astonishing that customers are expected to make up for your employer’s cheapness in not paying you a decent wage. Please include the full cost in everyone’s bill thank you very much. I’ll pay it because I have to and the charge is there for me to see.
What’s really funny here is that no one seems to criticize the employers! All criticism is reserved for non tipping customers instead of the owners of the restaurant for not paying a decent wage. Wtf! Could it possibly be because you guys know you can make much more by tips and under report your income to the IRS?
3. You’ll spit in my food if I don’t tip you?
And I’ll shoot your kid if you don’t give me a million dollars. Seriously, am I even hearing this right? You’re actually using the threat of blackmail to make me pay you? Well as long as you’re openly claiming to be a criminal it’s all right I guess.
Fortunately that’s why I prefer buffets. Listen apart from it being illegal, this shows your poor integrity. But if you spit in someone’s food because they didn’t give you money you didn’t earn, then you’re a loser and deserve to be a waiter for the rest of your life.
4. Bringing me my food isn’t worthy of being paid extra
Did you cook it? Did you invent it? No. You picked it up and brought it to me. While it might not be easy, there are plenty of jobs which are much worse – shop floor workers for example. And I’ve been a shop floor manager, so I know. Face it – compared to other jobs, being a waiter is unskilled. You get paid what the market will think your services are worth. You don’t deserve more for your work over and above what your employer should pay you.
5. Money doesn’t grow on trees
I expect you to be grateful and pray for me at night if I tip you 10%. Be happy I gave you anything at all. I worked for the money in my wallet and by giving you some I didn’t have to, I’m doing you a favor. Learn to remember that when people give you something they don’t need to, it’s a favor. You don’t complain that they didn’t give you more!
By the way, the same thing above applies to all professions that demand tips including those on cruise liners.
So now that you understand why I won’t give you money you don’t deserve, stop with the “oh how could you?” attitude. I can. And I will.
Update: Here’s a rebuttal of the many silly justifications for tipping that people have given in the comments section.
I don’t really care if you don’t tip.But do not ask me what you like just to see what I can come up best for you.I am the speech of my chef .You can’t ask me like you are an expert of all fancy foods,
I probably spend 5 minutes and come up with 10 brand new amazing dishes!But when you’ve decided,all to it was an order of simple chicken dish!Why on earth do you have to be so stupid like that?
Don’t you know I have 7 more tables to look after?
Don’t you know how to cook your own damn chicken at home?
Don’t ask me about how we cook that dish because I know it was just
shitty dish!I feel so low having you in front of me .You are a big pile of shit that poped up in my section!
May rats shit upon what you eat.
In reply to Alibaba
I think you are high on drugs and illiterate. Your writing skills are pathetic, and you make no sense. Stick to the only thing you are qualified to do. Cleaning puke off the floor, and cleaning toilets.
In reply to $Bill
Big fat smelly pig wearing tuxedo doesn’t count as a customer,keep your money ,you , fat slug!,I don’t want your
damn devilish money!
Don’t come near by my customers,go fart somewhere more private not in my section.
You’ve farted too loud and it sounded wet!
I build good business and I pass it on beyond your education.
Good business expanded wide not by your attitude but me.
It’s the father like you who passed on devilish knowledge to children! Go eat your money and when it comes out of your rear end you may put it back in your mouth so your children can learn your way of life.
In reply to Alibaba
I eat dog meat for my family. Dig food out of dumpster to make meal. My dick so small American dick so big. I jealous have no money. Rich American buy expensive food no tip me. I so chose to be so stupid and poor. American farts love smell.
In reply to I eat dog
Oh!!?! A retard just popped out of nowhere!!
In reply to Alibaba
I have relations with dog Ching Ching. American dick so very large me so small. American farts good for restaurant. Server horse meat and dog. I speak for retard chef me voice. Rich big dick American no tip me me so poor. Clean toilet with my hands cook crappy food. I not to be here illegal immigrant.
In reply to Alibaba
If you are craving for a big dick,why don’ you go find one instead of keep whining about it?
Since when smelly fat $Bill became Alibaba ?
Since when this blog belong to FAKE AMERICAN $BILL?
YOU ARE A REAL FAKE OF EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID AND DONE,EVERY FACT OF YOURS ID FAKE NO MATTER HOW RIGHT IT SOUND .YOUR EXISTENCE IS UNREAL .
WHEN YOU HAVE ENOUGH YOU MAY GO BACK INTO
YOUR SHIT HOLE.
In reply to $Bill
It makes you feel good to insult service workers because you have obviously been blessed with a micro-dick.
This is probably the worst thing I have literally ever read. To assume that servers are ‘unskilled’ and ‘not worth your money’ shows way more about who you are than them. You know nothing about any of these servers, their education levels, or their skill levels. You just assume that they are worthless because of their job. What the literal fuck, man.
Here’s an idea….do the job. Just once. Just for a week. You’ll get it. Don’t take it out on the servers because employers in the US don’t pay servers more than 2.13 (WHICH BTW ALL GOES TO TAXES). That isn’t their fault. That’s our fucking custom around here because, yes, it is expected to tip. We’re not greedy because we expect a tip. It would be greedy if we made actual money hourly.
You ever had a bad day at your job? Worked your ass off? But it was no big deal cause it’s all worth it when you get home? Money, right?!!?!!
Not for servers. We could work all day, twelve hour shifts, get belittled by people who for WHATEVER REASON think they’re better than servers and still have nothing to show for it. Not saying that’s always the case, but it is happens. We do a whole hell of a lot more than just smile and bring shit to a table. Just because you don’t see us at your table doesn’t mean we’re not doing shit. Anyone who says servers are unskilled and lazy has honestly never done the job, and is making a fool out of themselves.
And as for the “get a real job thing”….I started serving when I was in highschool. And continued to do so throughout college while paying off my car and buying my first house. I now have a Masters Degree in English and am a published author.
You, sir, are an uneducated fool.
In reply to Ann
umm…if you were smart you would know that servers make minimum wage. Stop trying to say they only make $2.13 an hour. With or without tips they are guaranteed at least $7.25 an hour. And yes, it is unskilled work.
In reply to Zeus
No, servers do not make mimimum wages… For an example, minimum wage in United States of America is about $7.25 (that is Federal Minimum wage, i think). The waiterss in state of Wyoming (where I’ve been waiterssing) is paid only $2.25, because it is expected that a customer tip their server. Is that a minimum wage? Do I even have to mention that the waitressing system there obligates you to, as a waitress, tip the bussers at least 10% of your tips at the end of your shift? And, no, it is definitely NOT an unskilled job, because you have to be fast, friendly, always happy, always to smile, and to EARN your tip. Now, imagine that you’re waitresing. Imagine that you are working, let’s say, for example, 8 hour shift, and for those 8 hours, with no tips, you make, what, less than $20 per day? Now, I also have to say, that, as a foreigner, it was apsolutely not easy at first to understand what people are ordering or what they want, so, you might just take it easy a little bit, and be more patient with me, instead of jelling at me and demanding to see my menager if I made some mistake I made which I can fix… My point is, if you don’t want to tip waiters, than just order to go food, but don’t treat me like I am “lower class” comparing to you, because you know NOTHING about me. Oh, one more thing, the reason why the waiters are, like you said, “acting like they’re your best friends”, is NOT because of the tips, it’s because we are representing the restaurant we work in, and because we want you to be satisfied customer.
In reply to Foreigner
**”No, servers do not make mimimum wages… For an example, minimum wage in United States of America is about $7.25 (that is Federal Minimum wage, i think). The waiterss in state of Wyoming (where I’ve been waiterssing) is paid only $2.25, because it is expected that a customer tip their server. Is that a minimum wage?”**
Oh for f*** sake! The link is ALL OVER THE PLACE HERE! http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm
“If an employee’s tips combined with the employer’s direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the Federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference.”
It’s FEDERAL LAW.
**”Do I even have to mention that the waitressing system there obligates you to, as a waitress, tip the bussers at least 10% of your tips at the end of your shift?”**
That’s restaurant policy, not law by any mean, and still subject to the law above.
**”And, no, it is definitely NOT an unskilled job, because you have to be fast, friendly, always happy, always to smile, and to EARN your tip.”**
Unskilled labor is, by definition, a job that requires no prior education and minimal training.
**”Now, imagine that you’re waitresing. Imagine that you are working, let’s say, for example, 8 hour shift, and for those 8 hours, with no tips, you make, what, less than $20 per day?*””
Again, Federal law requires the server’s employer to make up the difference if they don’t get paid in tips. They get $58, minimum, by law, regardless of whether tipped or not. If their employer fails to make up the difference, they are breaking the law (which is the responsibility of the server to report and/or sue for).
**”Now, I also have to say, that, as a foreigner, it was apsolutely not easy at first to understand what people are ordering or what they want, so, you might just take it easy a little bit, and be more patient with me, instead of jelling at me and demanding to see my menager if I made some mistake I made which I can fix… My point is, if you don’t want to tip waiters, than just order to go food, but don’t treat me like I am “lower class” comparing to you, because you know NOTHING about me. Oh, one more thing, the reason why the waiters are, like you said, “acting like they’re your best friends”, is NOT because of the tips, it’s because we are representing the restaurant we work in, and because we want you to be satisfied customer.”**
While I’m not as rough as $Bill is here, I’ll point out that, if somebody is a server, I know they chose the job. I also know that there’s a 99% chance they don’t know their own rights. I know that the fact that it has been repeatedly stated and linked throughout the comments, yet is ALWAYS ignored by servers, means they can’t be arsed to read the laws on the subject and would rather live in ignorance believing they only get $2.13 per hour. That also means I know they’re even dumber for taking a job that they believe pays less than minimum wage.
In reply to What a joke
You really are a patient gentlemen. I give you a few more years of dealing with incompetent blundering fools. Then you won’t be so nice anymore.
In reply to $Bill
Which is curious because (apparently?) I’ve been flagged for moderation, or at least my last comment was, despite generally being less of an ass (even if still an ass) about things than some others who comment here… lol
In reply to What a joke
It’s simple… If you are a known and you are sitting in my section I am to shit in your food. I am responsible for tipping out the chef at the end of the night so me and him actually conspire to find the best way to get feces into your meal. I have actually brought my chef some shit in a sandwich bag and watched him spread it on a steak and Grill it into the filet mignon then serve it up to my favorite known stiff. The chef and I like the look out of the kitchen window and watch our victim devour our poop as we laugh uncontrollably.
In reply to plato de poo poo
Well, that’s a criminal act. So now servers are extortionists and poisoners/attempted poisoners. Have fun in prison.
Also, if you’re in the US and tipping out to the chef, it’s not a valid tip pool, or legal. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/tip-pooling-credits-service-employees-29804.html
So you also work for a criminal.
In reply to Zeus
You are the true definition of a big fat smelly nigger
In reply to Ann
Don’t lie, you know server slaves make min wage. So if I did this job for a week, you say it would change my mind. I was a server at an upscale restaurant during summer vacation while I was highschool.
It was the easiest, simplest, brain-dead job I ever had in my entire life. It was so simple, that after two weeks the restaurant owner promoted me.
Even as a young kid, it was clear to me waiting tables was a joke.
A Masters degree in English pays $30,000 a year as a secretary. I know lots of dirt poor published authors. You are one of them. Let me guess. (How to wait tables and carry plates). I am sure it was a NY times best seller.
In reply to $Bill
Server slaves?
That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Servers are paid 2.13 an hour and that isn’t enough money to live off of if people like this ignorant man don’t tip. Serving isn’t simple, it’s hard. Not only between the guests but also from mangers and other co-workers. My mother was a server, I saw her struggle day in and day out to make money as one. I saw how much she struggled to support us. I saw her come home exhausted because she was tired from getting up at the ass crack of dawn and working till 1 AM. I saw her stress over the bills because her tips weren’t enough to pay most of them. Luckily, she got a new job and now makes 16.50 an hour because she went back to school. Now I work in a restaurant as a host and see first hand how the life of a server is. I see them sometimes not get paychecks because their tips were their whole paycheck but guess what? The tips they might’ve made that week did not equal if they got paid minimum wage. I see them work their asses off and feel terrible if I have to seat them an impromptu party that walked in through the door while they have their whole section full. Out of those three tables, 2/3 don’t leave a tip or think 3 dollars is enough. This type of job is not “simple” or “unskilled” but you need to know how to multitask and have tough skin because guests will belittle the servers. And not only are the servers taking care of you, but also have other things going on behind the scenes. The cook line messed up the food so now the food is going to take longer to make. The manager can be on their ass about another table. The host just sat them another table not even a minute after sitting the one before it. Oh that table of four just turned into a table of 7? Now they have more guests to care of as well as other things going on. Computers can malfunction so they have to go old school. The credit card machine is down because the computers are so they have to do the math on the checks and the table wants separate checks making it even harder. I can go on and on and on about how hardworking a server is but I have already wasted enough time on ignorant people who are better off eating at home rather than going to a restaurant.
In reply to Brenda
Servers are (by law) paid $7.25 an hour. Tips count as pay, legally, and are taxed as such. The reduced pay is called the tip credit, and it’s not a reduced pay because they CAN receive tips, it’s because they DO receive tips. Even the government thinks it’s BS for servers to get paid double. If a server does not make enough in tips to equal the full minimum wage, by law the employer must make up the difference. http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm
And before you even freaking bother, if the employer doesn’t do this, it’s up to the server to report and/or sue them. It’s not the customer’s responsibility or problem.
As for being unable to live off the income of a server: you’re not supposed to. Unskilled labor (and it is, by definition, unskilled labor because it requires no formal education to do) such as waiting tables, or working in fast food, is not intended to be a job a person lives off of. It’s a job for a high school student, or a college student, to get some “work” experience and earn a little extra cash.
The stress over bills is not job related stress. It’s self-inflicted stress by choosing a job that pays little and doing nothing to correct that. It’s like that girl who moved to San Francisco and got a job working for Yelp that didn’t pay enough to live off because San Francisco has a high cost of living. When she whined about it online, not only did she get fired (hey, solving her problem, she no longer works for somebody who “doesn’t pay enough”), but the majority of the internet she whined to pointed out that, if she knew it wouldn’t pay enough to live off of she probably shouldn’t have taken it in the first place.
The job you describe is no more difficult than working in fast food, and (in fact) fast food workers have to also do prep work that servers don’t have to do. Yet fast food workers only get paid minimum wage and aren’t allowed to accept tips. While it may become frantic, it does not take the work and effort other, higher paying jobs take. Hell, just going down your list of issues I managed to mentally equate them with things that have happened at my job. At my job I can have three different people in management giving me multiple, unrelated tasks to do, all due by a certain time/date, and at the same time they’re wondering where the ball got dropped on an error that shouldn’t have been missed that’s costing the company hundreds of man-hours, and in trying to figure out how to solve it another problem is uncovered because one guy was told he’d be getting something in a certain format, but didn’t find out until today that the format was actually useless to him and he’ll need to convert it.
The difference is at MY job, screw ups don’t cost us a 15-20% tip, they cost us millions of dollars and the possibility of no companies hiring us again which means not only do I lose a job, everyone I work with loses a job. On top of this, to correct the problem I may need to work an extra 20, maybe even 40 hours in a week, but (unlike servers) I don’t get overtime pay because my job is overtime exempt, as are most jobs at this level.
You took away the wrong lesson from your mom. The lesson you should have learned is this: if you want more money (enough to live off of), you have to work hard and go to school for it. The lesson is NOT “servers deserve tips because I think they work hard!”
In reply to What a joke
That was an excellent response sir. The server slave is so stupid, I am sure most of it confused her. These responses given by unskilled people is proof positive unskilled jobs are all they can handle.
In reply to $Bill
No. I learned from my mother that no matter what fucking job a person has they work their ass off. The only people that discredit their hard work are people like you. And guess what?? People like you are also the same ones that say if you don’t make enough go to school. Well guess what? They do and go into even more debt. I know fast food is also hard because I also had to work at a fast food place. I know both are hard and both deserve credit. I’m not confused at all. But the fact that you guys are so idiotic and ignorant does blow my mind. Want to know another detail. I’m 16 years old and know all of this. I’m not an idiot. But every place is different. And servers don’t get paid double you morons.
In reply to Brenda
I am by no means idiotic, and I’ve mentioned multiple times here I went from being homeless to being a college grad. I’ve worked hard to get where I am.
I’ve also pointed out that, if you are actually poor, you qualify for grants that don’t require you to pay them back. If you work hard you can also qualify for scholarships.
And student debt really isn’t a problem if a person chooses a major that they can actually do and which will result in a career that pays well enough to pay the loans off. As long as they do the work and graduate, anyway. It’s actually a really good way to build credit while improving your (and potential family’s) future.
Regardless, your statement that everyone “works hard” just validates the point that servers shouldn’t be tipped because most people aren’t. However, whether it is “hard work” is relative to what you are comparing it to. Is it harder than NOT working? Sure. That’s why there is compensation at all. But it’s certainly not hard work when compared with jobs one actually needs an education for (since the education alone is more difficult than waiting tables). This is why there differences in pay.
In reply to Brenda
You have me confused with somebody that gives a fuck. Unskilled labor is hard work, because it is punishment for not having a college degree in a useful field.
If you go to college and bury yourself into debt, it is because you are stupid and whatever it is you’re taking is not worth pursuing. There is no reason you should not be making six figures when you graduate. If you can’t afford college I don’t give a fuck.
Rich important people always need slobs like you to clean toilets.
In reply to $Bill
Hey. You can fuck off. Server slave is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Servers are not slaves. So you can fuck off
In reply to Ann
**”This is probably the worst thing I have literally ever read. To assume that servers are ‘unskilled’ and ‘not worth your money’ shows way more about who you are than them. You know nothing about any of these servers, their education levels, or their skill levels. You just assume that they are worthless because of their job. What the literal fuck, man.”**
Serving is, by definition, unskilled labor. It requires no education, no experience, and little training (if any) to perform the job.
**”Here’s an idea….do the job. Just once. Just for a week. You’ll get it. Don’t take it out on the servers because employers in the US don’t pay servers more than 2.13 (WHICH BTW ALL GOES TO TAXES). That isn’t their fault. That’s our fucking custom around here because, yes, it is expected to tip. We’re not greedy because we expect a tip. It would be greedy if we made actual money hourly.”**
As you read elsewhere, and others have commented, you are legally paid $7.25 per hour between tips and wages. If you do not make up the difference in tips, your employer legally must. If your employer does not, it is your responsibility to report and/or sue them.
Don’t take it out on the customers for your choice to work there for a wage you agreed to, or for your employer breaking the law. That isn’t our fault.
Oh, and everyone pays taxes.
**”You ever had a bad day at your job? Worked your ass off? But it was no big deal cause it’s all worth it when you get home? Money, right?!!?!!
Not for servers. We could work all day, twelve hour shifts, get belittled by people who for WHATEVER REASON think they’re better than servers and still have nothing to show for it. Not saying that’s always the case, but it is happens. We do a whole hell of a lot more than just smile and bring shit to a table. Just because you don’t see us at your table doesn’t mean we’re not doing shit. Anyone who says servers are unskilled and lazy has honestly never done the job, and is making a fool out of themselves.
And as for the “get a real job thing”….I started serving when I was in highschool. And continued to do so throughout college while paying off my car and buying my first house. I now have a Masters Degree in English and am a published author.
You, sir, are an uneducated fool.”**
The fact that you got the job in high school is evidence that the job is unskilled labor. For somebody with a Master’s (there’s an apostrophe there) in English, it’s surprising that you don’t seem to understand how terminology works. Since I’ve explained the term elsewhere, I won’t bother to explain it again.
Oh, I’m a published author too, and I didn’t waste five+ years getting a degree in English. Neither did S. E. Hinton, who wrote The Outsiders while she was in high school and got published her first year of college (she got a degree in education). Nor did Christopher Paolini, who began writing Eragon at 15. Mr. Paolini never even bothered to go to college, and instead decided to promote his book. But, uhhh, good job?
Saying that serving is the easiest job anyone can do is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. My mother was a server, she worked her ass off but never complained. Yes, she only made 2.13 an hour and sometimes at the end of the night she would owe the restaurant money because guests didn’t tip. She now has a better job but it taught me the value of how hard working servers are. I now work as a host at a restaurant to save up for school. I see servers being belittled because of “simple” tasks they do. No honey. They are not simple. The servers have other tables to worry about. I don’t see them standing around doing nothing. I see them running around because people like you are having them run around to get you what you need to make your experience better. And no we aren’t your best friend. But what do you expect us to do? Be total assholes to you? No. We are there to make the atmosphere better. If you don’t want us around much. Please say so. But also saying they are lucky if you tip them is completely idiotic. The check only includes the amount of how much your food was worth and that’s it. It doesn’t include the servers pay. I’ve seen servers get paychecks of 20 dollars or not even a paycheck at all because the tips are their paychecks. Ever heard of tip share? If not, let me break it down for you. Tip share is where servers split their tips in half to give to the bussers at the end of the night for cleaning their tables. So not only do their tips,
If they get tips, are rare but they are halved to give to the bussers. It seems like you are misinformed about the behind the scenes of a servers life. Take it from me. It’s not easy.
In reply to Wow
Now I’m convinced that a servers job is even easier than I thought. So they have to tip out to bussers because servers now are too lazy to clean off the tables. Another reason not to tip.
In reply to NoTipSkip
Servers don’t “choose” not to clean off their own tables. The managers do. They hire bussers so they can turn tables quickly and serve a higher volume of guests. And the reason I mentioned my degree is because you say everyone who is a server is lazy. No, its a job I did to put myself through college, buy my first car, and buy my first house. It would be lazy if I didn’t have a job at all. I’m just saying stop assuming you know everything about someone who is a server. You may not have respect for the job, but have respect for the people because you don’t knowanyanything about them.
In reply to Ann
I don’t want to know anything about the wait staff. They are not worthy of my time or extra money. Servers are greedy scum who think everyone owes them something for doing simple tasks.
In reply to NoTipSkip
Stay the fuck home then
In reply to Wow
You are living proof that servers are as dumb as a box of rocks.
In reply to Wow
This has been posted at least a 1000 times, yet you still say the pay was $2.13
http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm
Shut up and fill our drinks dumbass. You lying piece of shit
In reply to $Bill
Don’t be surprised if servers don’t want to wait on you with that fucking attitude. Just stay fucking home and make your own fucking food. I promise you it’ll be cheaper and you won’t have to deal with our “dumbasses”
In reply to Brenda
Since being a waitress is going to be your full time job. The hired help should never speak unless spoken to. They constantly make this mistake, and must be punished for their insolence.
Rich important customers don’t want to hear the waitress speak, unless you are describing the dinner menu.
There are some very inappropriate and racist comments that should be removed!!!
In reply to Anonymous
Free-speech is a wonderful thing. The only post that offends me is yours for trying to take it away. You don’t have to be here get lost fuck you.
In reply to Free speech
If you’re speaking about the US, the First Amendment has limitations:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions
Many (if not most) other places have laws against hate speech and the like.
Also, what you say can further be limited by the terms of use of a site. This site doesn’t have any agreed upon terms when you comment, although there are a few guidelines.
That being said, I count more racist “server” side comments than anyone else.
In reply to To be fair
I see nothing racist. Only servers that think they are entitled to tips for a job only retards should have.
In reply to Free speech
Please don’t use the word retard. It isn’t the right way to use it and people take offense to that. But you still don’t car because you’re so full of yourself. Everyone isn’t entitled to something but servers don’t believe they are entitled to tips. But when they make as much as they do. They do count on a tip to help make up their income. And these comments are offensive as well as are made on very little information that isn’t even accurate.
In reply to Wow
Mental retardation is a medical term:
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/mental+retardation
It also appears in MW:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mental%20retardation
In Free speech’s case, it’s shortened and being used as a plural noun. Now, the question of whether it’s being used correctly is a matter of inserting the definition into what’s being said and have it make sense:
“Only servers that think they are entitled to tips for a job only people with subaverage intellectual ability equivalent to or less than an IQ of 70 that is accompanied by significant deficits in abilities (as in communication or self-care) necessary for independent daily functioning should have.”
As for the question of offensiveness – while you (and anyone else) has a right to be offended, that doesn’t mean people aren’t allowed to say it.
And looking through the comments, you’ll note many, many servers who feel they are entitled to tips. As that is the sample group Free speech was referring to, it does not make his/her statement inaccurate.
Servers choose their job (for whatever reason), so their income is their choice. Saying they should receive tips simply because they have low paying jobs is absurd. Their job isn’t supposed to be one they can support themselves off of – no minimum wage job (and please go find the link that has been posted here dozens of times before you try to say they’re not paid minimum wage, it’s Federal law) is intended to be a long-term, sustaining career choice.
In reply to Wow
Mentally disabled are really = RETARDS
homeless are really = BUMS
exotic dancers are really = STRIPPERS
Waitresses are really lazy retarded bums that want and feel entitled to tips because being a stripper was too much work.
In reply to Wow
How is this not Accurate?
http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm
Waitresses don’t need tips to make up for the income they are paid. They are paid much more than they are worth. With or without tips they get minimum wage. This unskilled job is paid properly.
In reply to Free speech
Haha, someone is just clearly butt hurt that we make the cash we do! Keep hating and we will keep counting our money! We don’t need people like you anyway. Plenty of DECENT people out there helping struggling college students work their way through school.
In reply to None of your business
Helping out a struggling college student to me sounds like charity. I don’t do charity. Your parents should’ve planned a college fund for you. Your parents are losers for making you work instead of devoting all your time to your studies.
The truth is you don’t go to college, this is your full-time job. You are here to bitch and moan because you think you’re entitled to tips.
In reply to $Bill
I was a “poor, struggling college student,” but I didn’t go around expecting hand-outs from strangers for doing a job I was already being paid to do. I just did my work, earned my scholarships and grants, and dealt with it.
In reply to What a joke
The difference between you and None of your business is he expects hand -outs from strangers, you never did. He is a complaining poor me bitch. You were a man about it and prospered.
In reply to $Bill
First of all I’m a woman. Second of all I am 23 years old with a masters degree, so I wouldn’t say I expect a handout by any means.But I expect to be paid for the work I do. And CHEAP, pathetic, ignorant, sexist people like you can just stay home. I waited tables for 5 Years for a fortune 500 company and was paid $3.25 at the highest, got the pay stubs to prove it. Was actually part of a class action law suit fighting the system and the low pay of servers. But honestly people like you do nothing to contribute to society accept spread hate. Try being kind, it’s a much better way to love your life. I’ll pray for your hateful soul.
In reply to None of your business
Stupid bitch, you must have a masters degree in stupidity. Servers make $7.25 with or without tips. The link is posted in every other reply. I really wish servers only made $2-3 an hour. They are hardly even worth that much.
In reply to None of your business
Feel free to show us your tax info including tips to prove you received even a penny less than Federal minimum wage with tips. I’d be happy to find you a lawyer to help you file a lawsuit against your (former?) employer.
However, minimum wage is honestly all the job is worth. Your agreement to the employment contract is willful acknowledgement and acceptance of that fact.
Either way, you should not take it out on the customers, not expect them to make up for it. It’s not their responsibility, and they aren’t forcing you to work that job, and deciding to keep the money THEY earned instead of giving you money for a job you’re being paid by your employer to do (regardless of how shitty that pay is) does not make them cheap.
In reply to None of your business
You clearly have a masters degree in stupidity.
http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm
You can also add lying piece of shit to your resume.
In reply to $Bill
Parents don’t owe their ADULT children a college education. So you lied by saying that you don’t expect anyone to give you hand outs. You call Servers self entitled but some of them are working and studying and all you had to do was study and do well in school. Your parents made you the epitome of a self absorbed, self entitled liberal douche canoe.
In reply to burton
A college fund is set up and maintained when they are a child. It isn’t some fund set up as an afterthought for an adult.
It’s like suggesting that you shouldn’t feed or clothe your children because they will at some point be adults – especially at the point where they are “near adult.”
“No, don’t buy Jimmy a new pair of shoes! He might still wear them when he turns 18!”
In reply to burton
My parents paid for my Ivy League education. My son graduated from Harvard, my daughter goes to Yale. I pay for everything to give them a good start in life. My sons graduation gift was a Porsche 911 Turbo. My daughter wants a Lexus GX. My parents paved the way for my future success, as I have done my children. I’m sorry your butt hurts because your parents are douche bags that didn’t plan for your future success.
Your parents clearly should not have reproduced.
In reply to $Bill
If successful in America, means buying foreign cars and raising self entitled children then you are the poster child of successful, congratulations.
Successful to me means raising children to not treat other people like shit on their shoes. Someday when your kids noses are so high up in the air, something is going to shit in them.
I am successful, I have been married for 33 years and have two grown children with families of their own.
In reply to burton
en·ti·tled/inˈtīdld,enˈtīdld/
adjective
believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.
Now, IDK about you, but I don’t think somebody who has earned their money at wage or salary preferring to keep the money they earned is believing themselves to be deserving of special treatment, nor is the expectation of an employee at a place of service to do the job they were hired to do.
However, I do find that expecting to be paid by a customer of one’s employer for duties that are part of one’s job description, and that one is being paid an hourly wage to do, simply because one lives under the delusion that their job is more difficult than other jobs of the same level (it isn’t) and because their agreed upon, contractual wage is low to be belief in deserving special treatment. Especially when you consider that equally low paying (i.e. minimum wage) jobs do not have such additional compensations.
Hahaha how about everyone shuts up that would be awesome.
If you have such a problem with being expected to tip and feel it is up to the establishment to provide an adequate wage, why not only frequent places that do that? By dining in and patronizing restaurants that pay the lower rate expecting servers to be compensated by tips to make up the difference you are essentially agreeing to the practice. Your attempt to come up with reasons why you don’t tip and blaming it on not agreeing with the practice are thin and only other people who are too cheap to tip agree with you. If you truly had an objection based on a desire to see that practice change you would NEVER dine somewhere that paid the workers less than minimum wage.
In reply to Melissa
You are paid an adequate wage stupid.
http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm
You are not worth any extra money.
In reply to Melissa
I’m fairly certain that anyone willing to pay hundreds of dollars on a meal isn’t “too cheap” for anything. Paying somebody to do a job they’re already being paid to do is absurd. It doesn’t matter if the pay is low, since that’s the pay one accepts when they take the job. It’s Federal minimum wage, by law. See the link $Bill posted (and read the whole damn thing).
If their employer breaks the law it’s their responsibility to report and/or sue. Expecting the customers to give them money for something they’re already paid to do just because they feel the pay isn’t good enough is abhorrent. Quit the job, like anyone else who doesn’t feel their pay is worth the work.
Here’s an idea sir, if you have a “craving” and cannot get it at McDonald’s then make it your fucking self. It is people like you who thinks just because we work in the restaurant business that we do not have plans of our own. Careers we want to actually pursue. This just pays the bills for me right now. You would not last one night working in a restaurant if you tried. I don’t care what kind of job you have, if you have never worked in the food industry then do not judge people who do. I do not judge the people like you who come in and are rude to us. Tips is how we survive. We do not get paid minimum wage as servers. It is $2.83 an hour so we do not even get paychecks. If you do not like servers who are polite and attentive to your every need then stay the fuck home! Make it your damn self! Lazy motherfucker.
In reply to Kaisie
http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm
I think you’re extremely stupid and possibly retarded. Let’s also add lying piece of shit to the list.
As you can clearly see by law, you must make at least federal minimum-wage. I really wish you only made $2.13 an hour. You are so stupid you don’t even know how much you really get paid. Waiting tables will be your full-time job because you’re too stupid and lazy to do anything else for a living.
In reply to Kaisie
People who work at McDonald’s actually work as hard as, if not harder than, a server. We’ve had several people who have had both jobs verify that in the comments. They not only have to do everything a server does (or some equivalent), they also have to do it faster, as well as actual food prep, which servers don’t do.
Both jobs pay minimum wage because they’re some of the simplest jobs you can get paid to do. They require no education, and training isn’t terribly extensive. And yes, it pays minimum wage. Read the link $Bill posted all the way to the end. That’s Federal law.
You aren’t supposed to survive off the pay from those jobs because those aren’t the type of job you’re supposed to try to survive off. Those types of jobs are so that teens and college students can get a little work experience and earn a little extra spending money.
Regardless, it isn’t the customer’s responsibility to pay you for the job you’re already being paid to do. All the customer is responsible for is ensuring you HAVE a job by being a patron of the restaurant, and it’s part of your job to make sure that customer comes back.
lol do everyone a favour and just stay home princess. I know you think your money is worth something but… we don’t actually want money from people like you, there are a thousand other people who are willing to tip instead of you who aren’t proper bell ends, so cook your own food and don’t burden other people with your shitty attitudes.
Ha look at this cunt. Clearly never worked a day of customer service in their life. The tip isn’t to substitute for poor hourly pay, it’s to put up with pricks like this author.
In reply to Ell Torn
So why don’t people get tips in every job that deals with “pricks”?
In reply to What a joke
Because other industries aren’t forward thinking enough?
In reply to Ell Torn
Pretty much every job deals with “pricks.” The difference is, if the pay isn’t good enough to do so, they quit. They don’t expect to be paid extra because of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK0-76FChfk
In reply to What a joke
Most of the times it’s the coworkers, no other profession deals with as many people as customer service. Avg hourly wage for a 21yo hospitality worker in Australia is $22 per hour so no tips and terrible service. True story
In reply to Ell Torn
Most customer service workers don’t get tips. I know, I’ve done LOTS of customer service work.
Server/waiter/waitress are not synonymous with customer service.
In reply to Ell Torn
Also, dealing with an asshole coworker (and especially boss) is far worse than having an asshole customer. An asshole customer isn’t there every single freaking day for 8 hours, and even if your boss is an asshole in the service industry, it’s usually not a huge problem to just… you know, find a different job that requires very little in terms of qualifications.
In reply to What a joke
Depends what you do though, some people (like myself) have put in 15 years, are very experienced at not just serving food but running a profitable business, it’s a profession for some and I love it, not that easy to start again and if you bounce around job to job your CV looks shit. Try dealing with up to 500 unique rude and arrogant assholes glued to their mobile phones every day.
In reply to Ell Torn
Yeahhh, sorry, but I’m pretty sure “worked as a waitress” doesn’t matter too much on a CV, and you don’t really need a CV to get a job as a server (or any other unskilled job – that’s why they’re unskilled).
Any job that you’d actually need a CV for is a lot more difficult to get in the first place, which is kind of the point I was making. If I want to leave my job because a coworker or supervisor is an asshole, it’s a much more serious problem.
In reply to What a joke
You’ve never worked in a restaurant before have you? Or run a business? Looked at a P&L or been responsible for managing anything other than your subscription to YouPorn?
In reply to Ell Torn
I feel sorry for you for being a loser stuck for 15 years in an unskilled job that a child could do. I’m being sarcastic as I definitely don’t feel bad for you at all. In 20 years you will still be stuck in the same industry.
In reply to Waldo
Yup, and probably still slogging away a 12 hours a day doing what I love with my undies soaked in sweat before sticking my hand in my ass crack and rubbing it in food for cunts like you.
You on the other hand will still be answering the phone at a call centre while your parents ask you why you haven’t found “a nice girl” yet or why the fuck you’re still living in their house at 35.
I never expect a tip, and you have every right not to leave one. Whenever a customer leaves me a tip of 20 cents or so, and looks embarrassed (“it’s not much”), I remind them that I appreciate it, and it’s more than they had to give.
However, do not even dream about asking your waiter or bartender for special treatment of any kind. Don’t ask if they can seat you and your three friends on the six seater so you can have more room to stretch out, even if it’s quiet when you walk in. Don’t ask if you can get one last round of happy hour drinks even though it’s 7:06pm. Don’t ask for (free) extra bread because there’s still some hommous, babaganoush and beetroot dip left. And DEFINITELY don’t ask your bartender to pour “a little more” scotch into your glass.
In short, don’t ask your bartender or waiter to treat you better than everyone else in the room just because. A tip should never be a bribe, but it’s a two way street. If you’re not willing to pay a cent more than the price of your meal on general principle, that’s fine. But don’t expect your waiter to do the slightest bit more for you than their job requires (cue the obscure, fantastical interpretation of what the word “service” really means).
Just pay for the exact services you require, pay exactly according to your bill, be pleasant, and enjoy pleasant treatment in return.
In reply to Rich
Nobody ever expects a waiter or waitress to do a little bit extra. Walking and chewing gum at the same time is more then the average waitress can handle. Don’t forget, waiting tables is an unskilled job. You’re nothing special and easily replaceable. Sounds to me like you have delusions of grandeur.
In reply to $Bill
I’m a kiwi don’t do tips here but for someone to think he better than others just because he has money and an education is prehistoric thinking it maybe time you pull your head out of your arse and come back down to the real world the delusion of grandeur is your delusion no one else’s …. May have a education but you vocabulary certainly doesn’t show it you sound like trailer trash the way you talk anyone that works deserves our respect I think it time you grow up and learn empathy or is that beyond your capability. …
In reply to Kiwi
I think you need to go back to first grade and learn how to use proper english. Periods would be a start. It’s not my fault you can’t go to college because you flunked out of grade school. Yes, I do look down on any server who is older than 25. It is a job for teenagers and unwed moms.