5 reasons why I won’t tip you if you’re a waiter

It never fails to shock me how a tip is demanded in the US. People simply refuse to listen to reason when we (yes, there are others!) tell them that leaving a tip isn’t necessary. Well, I’m hoping for too much here, but if you’re a waiter, here are 5 reasons why I will try my best not to give any money to you and why the reasons for tipping are crappy.

1. You act as if you’re my best friend

Just leave me alone ok? I don’t want to bloody chit chat with you. I want food. FOOD! Get it? It’s a restaurant. I go there to eat. I go because I want either Italian food, Chinese Food or something else which I can’t get in a McDonald’s. So I come to a restaurant to fulfill my cravings for it. I will pay for what I value – food. Not you.

Christ, you offend me – kneeling down next to my table, pretending to like me and chatting as if you’re my best friend when it’s obvious that all you’re after is the tip! I’m not a bloody money bag you know. I will pay the bill which includes the cost of the food, the environment and the salaries of the people involved – nothing more.

The only way to get money out of me that I don’t have to legally pay is by prying it out of my cold dead hands…

Bottom line: I don’t want to know your name, or interact with you for any longer than I have to in order to place my order. As far as I’m concerned, you’re the equivalent of a conveyor belt that brings me my food and a computer into which I input my order. Of course, I won’t be rude. But don’t expect me to interact with you any more than I would with some stranger.

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2. You don’t get paid enough

And this is my problem how exactly? It’s astonishing that customers are expected to make up for your employer’s cheapness in not paying you a decent wage. Please include the full cost in everyone’s bill thank you very much. I’ll pay it because I have to and the charge is there for me to see.

What’s really funny here is that no one seems to criticize the employers! All criticism is reserved for non tipping customers instead of the owners of the restaurant for not paying a decent wage. Wtf! Could it possibly be because you guys know you can make much more by tips and under report your income to the IRS?

3. You’ll spit in my food if I don’t tip you?

And I’ll shoot your kid if you don’t give me a million dollars. Seriously, am I even hearing this right? You’re actually using the threat of blackmail to make me pay you? Well as long as you’re openly claiming to be a criminal it’s all right I guess.

Fortunately that’s why I prefer buffets. Listen apart from it being illegal, this shows your poor integrity. But if you spit in someone’s food because they didn’t give you money you didn’t earn, then you’re a loser and deserve to be a waiter for the rest of your life.

4. Bringing me my food isn’t worthy of being paid extra

Did you cook it? Did you invent it? No. You picked it up and brought it to me. While it might not be easy, there are plenty of jobs which are much worse – shop floor workers for example. And I’ve been a shop floor manager, so I know. Face it – compared to other jobs, being a waiter is unskilled. You get paid what the market will think your services are worth. You don’t deserve more for your work over and above what your employer should pay you.

5. Money doesn’t grow on trees

I expect you to be grateful and pray for me at night if I tip you 10%. Be happy I gave you anything at all. I worked for the money in my wallet and by giving you some I didn’t have to, I’m doing you a favor. Learn to remember that when people give you something they don’t need to, it’s a favor. You don’t complain that they didn’t give you more!

By the way, the same thing above applies to all professions that demand tips including those on cruise liners.

So now that you understand why I won’t give you money you don’t deserve, stop with the “oh how could you?” attitude. I can. And I will.

Update: Here’s a rebuttal of the many silly justifications for tipping that people have given in the comments section.

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  1. The Phantom says:

    I am a food server and there are certain races of people that I will give 100%. b/c i know what they are going to leave me at the end. Fucking indians are the worst. They are fucking demanding, they eat slow and never get ice in the water. They think that leaving two dollars is a good tip. Know this never fuck with the person that serves your food

    • Chris says:

      This guys picture is out there. He’s royally fucked. Probably eaten so much saliva and semen mixed into his food and he doesn’t even know it.

      • Jess says:

        No I’m pretty sure his deformations have something to do with his parents being super related to eachother. I suppose word didnt get out that thats disgusting over in india or wherever he’s from.

  2. Caylee says:

    Those of you who are against tipping your servers have no idea what servers go through at work. We work for $2 an hour (more or less, depending on state laws) so that you can enjoy a steak for $10. If our employers paid us more, we would have no incentive to provide good service and the restaurant would lose business because of the raised menu prices driving customers away.

    Working in a restaurant during a dinner rush (especially on holidays or weekend nights) is easily one of the most stressful jobs around. The picture you paint in your head of the life of a server sounds rather pleasant compared to what actually goes on. I wish it was as easy as getting a food order, putting it in a computer, and then bringing it out to you. Does the term ‘sidework’ mean anything to you? What do you think your server is doing while you are sitting at your table masticating? We are constantly on our feet running food, keeping up with ice, cleaning up spills and broken plates that could result in a lawsuit, answering your every need, no matter how ridiculous. Something always needs to be done, and usually no one has time to do anything because of how busy we are. Whether it’s running out of clean glasses and having to run to the back to get more (if there are any ready), in turn slowing down your drink-to-table time, or attempting to make 10 glasses of sweet tea for that large party you just got sat with only to realize that there is only enough tea for 4 glasses, there’s always something. Being a server means thinking on your feet and being able to multitask and handle a high-volume atmosphere without caving under pressure. What about when you’re taking the order of your ever-so-complicated 8-top in which each person has a very specific, long order and then you notice the hostesses have no choice but to double seat you because the restaurant is at full capacity and on a 90-minute wait? Now your greet time (which is usually supposed to be around 30 seconds after a table is seated) to that new table will have risen, and your timer for the 8-top will have a few extra (vital) minutes added to it because you will be forced to postpone the putting in of their order. What’s that? Now to add to that small incident, one of your other tables realizes that their burger has onions on it, and they don’t like onions (even though you remember repeating their order back to them and asking if lettuce, tomato, onion, and pickle were all okay). Now you have to find a manager (equivalent to finding water in the dessert) so that their meal can be discounted and their burger can be remade. You deliver drinks to your double-seated table, and oh no! They decide they actually want that margarita on the rocks, not frozen. You go back to the POS station, enter the new drink into the computer, enter your large party’s order and pray that it comes out quickly enough for them not to be pissed off, then find your manager again to have him comp the unwanted margarita from the check. Meanwhile, you see that your large party has sucked down their teas. You go to make more, dodging servers with full trays of food on your way into the kitchen and hearing the various forms of communication happening between the cooks and the managers, expo workers, servers, and takeout workers (AKA a bunch of yelling and confusion which somehow always works out one way or another). Then you realize the ice bin is empty. While your manager is calling for help running food you run to the ice maker to refill the ice bin and pray that one of your coworkers can/will run the food so that you don’t get chewed out for trying to make sure your table had fresh drinks.

    I could go on, and it gets way more complicated than that at least a few times a night. But I can honestly say that I love my job at this point in my life. Why did I choose to work for $2 an hour? Because I was raised in America where servers are tipped and we drive on the left side. Because I am paying my way through college so that I won’t have to be a food server forever. Because I like seeing people who are satisfied with their meal and who are enjoying themselves. I don’t interact with my tables for the sole purpose of a decent tip. I love engaging in conversation with new people and making sure that they have a fulfilling and happy experience with me as their server. Thankfully, most people are a pleasure to serve. Most people are also good tippers. Would I work as hard as I do were it not for the tips? Absolutely not. Do I perform my job well just to receive a tip? Absolutely not. I work hard and do my best for each of my customers, whether they tip me or not. The ones who don’t tip are made up for by the good people who do tip. I enjoy making people happy, and I believe that I deserve your 20% tip. But if you don’t tip me, I won’t spit in your food or act unprofessionally towards you. I’ll think poorly of you and question your morals and simply hope to never see you in my section again.

    If you think your server is an unskilled high school drop out, you’re incorrect. Your server can handle more tasks at once than you can and balance a 30 pound tray with a smile on her face. And if you think that servers make too much money with tips, consider the time after closing when you and all of the other customers are gone, but we are not. We are cleaning, prepping, depositing, doing sidework, etc. for hours after the restaurant closes. The tips we received throughout the night make up for the times that we are performing labor for under minimum wage, and that’s the only reason it’s legal to make us stay and clean. No restaurant is going to sacrifice labor costs (the highest costs faced by a restaurant) to eliminate the tradition of tipping (as well as eliminate most of the customers who would be repulsed by the price of food to cover the heightened labor costs).

    Oh, and a side note: it would be a greater liability and cost to a full-functioning restaurant to allow guests to pick up their own food and make their own drinks. What, are you going to tell me the guests should go directly up the the cooks’ window and tell them their food was not cooked correctly? Well I sure hope all our guests come prepared in their non-slip shoes and have their serve safety qualification cards handy!

    I hope nothing but the best for you non-tipping people who cheat the system and enjoy cheaper food without paying a tip to your server (even though your meal plus a 20% tip would still come out cheaper than it would if the restaurant paid your server minimum wage).

    We have a word for people like you.

    • David says:


      That is really all you need to see and I don’t need to read the whole paragraph of job duties. I could write multiple paragraphs about job duties at any position and act like it warrants a tip, but they are what they are; JOB DUTIES that YOU signed up for.

      If you cant understand that link, then I don’t think you are an informed employee in the least bit. If you still complain about making “less than minimum wage” after absorbing the information in that link, it’s nobody elses fault but your own.

      And stop with the whole food prices would double from raising wages to minimum wage. Lets say the server works a 4 hour shift at $7.50 an hour; 30 bucks. at $2 an hour; 8 bucks. So you have to make up 22 dollars difference over the period of a 4 hour shift. at 2 dollars an hour steaks are 10 bucks, and at minimum wage most say “doubled”, so 20. Based off of that logic it would take 2-3 customers to make up the difference in your wage (for the whole shift), when you’re serving well over that amount (within an hour usually). If you’re getting 20% tips (and not even all the time) and making more than minimum wage, why would there need to be a 100% increase in prices to make up for that 20% thats now gone? … now math has not always been my strong suit, but those numbers dont make sense to me. (Math was never really my strongest subject, so if theres an explanation let know)

      If you think being paid minimum wage, and the possibility of GRATUITIES on top of it, would cause employees to work less effectively you are way beyond wrong. Why would people bust their hump for 2.13 plus tips, but decide to be a shitty server when they make minimum with the OPTION of tipping still available? It’s not like you making minimum wage outlaws tipping altogether, but it goes back to the way it should be; AN OPTION FOR EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE (not just service in general) Do you realize how bad that makes servers look saying that you wouldn’t work as hard if it was your employer who was ensuring you made a living off your job instead of the consumer? That just shows how bad your work ethic more than anything. You wont work hard because you’re being paid properly with the possibility of making EVEN MORE than you do now. Simple solution to that though if it is the case; Fire them and replace them with someone willing to work, someone without a sense of entitlement for no reason what so ever.

      Clearly servers don’t take into account the financial state of the customer coming in because of their sense of entitlement (like TGI fridays is some sort of 5* restaurant that if I cant afford to tip at I should eat the slop at McDonalds) And most want to keep it this way so they can continue to complain about the wrong people, while making well over minimum wage and putting unnecessary pressure on the customer whos just there to eat.

      I have one question for you; How much do you believe a server should make annually? What other profession would you put them on par with for financial compensation?

    • Marie says:

      To the server who said you expect a tip because you were raised in america where you drive on the left… youve got bigger problems than not getting a tip, you are gonna get someone KILLED…

  3. business_nunya says:

    Thank God non-tippers were few and far between and most people tipped enough for me to pay my way through school, even though they had to cover the non-tips of the ranting, anti-tipping crowd while they did it. At least most people understand that the return from paying many current and former servers benefits society far more than you tightwad, internet-warriors who have declared a war on servers will ever, EVER know. In your argument to point blame at the system, you punish many single parents and/or college students. If you feel that strongly about it, start petitioning the restaurants and politicians, and quit taking it out on the people who are just trying to pay the bills. I made about $12-$20 hour and had no insurance as a server. and the same could be said for many of my coworkers and former classmates that work in other science fields.

    Now, I suppose it’s your turn to feel indebted to many ex-servers like me that heed EPA, state and municipal protocols that enable you to stumble to your sink in the middle of the night for a huge glass of drinking water that isn’t lethal. In fact, your sinks, washing machine, shower, lawn, toilets and even the local car wash also receive the same high-quality water. We also ensure that your backyards and lakes aren’t polluted with the industrial discharge and waste of every other house, farm and business around you. And it’s not just my field either. I have one friend that performs analyses that ensure that the soap your nurse is washing her hands with does it’s job, and another that is involved with the document control of FDA medical trials. We all served and/or bartended. And a zillion others do a zillion other jobs that contribute to society, or are in some way involved people who do (like kids), and it’s almost guaranteed you take most of them for granted. So on behalf of all the servers there were, are or ever will be, we humbly thank you for paying us outright to bring you your 6th cup of coffee an hour after your meal ended. Conversely, on behalf of past, current and future servers, you’re welcome.

  4. Fredric says:

    Waiting tables is an unskilled retarded job. You are worth nothing. That is the reason you make $2.00 an hour. My tip is too bad so sad.

  5. aly says:

    You know why you should tip? Because it is customary. Willfully ignoring the customs of a country while you are there is RUDE. Therefore not tipping in the United States is RUDE. It is gauche, culturally unacceptable behavior, and if you wonder why you so often find yourself asked to justify it, it is because you are a rude, inconsiderate, entitled boor who has no business travelling the world until he can learn to respect others’ cultures. It is not your place to lecture us on how you think our cultural practices are stupid. I’m sure if a travelling American did the same to you, you’d be up in arms. At the end of the day, this isn’t about the money…it’s about you being the kind of jerk who likes to assert to people in powerless positions that he thinks his culture is inherently superior to theirs. Proud of yourself?

  6. monica says:

    how the heck is somebody going to spit in the food if you don’t tip? people pay AFTER you eat the food so how will they know if you’re going to tip or not? you’re giving yourself away that you have no idea how the industry works. talking out of your butt

  7. jim says:

    It’s your choice to tip or not but we remember and you might not want to come back to the same place twice. There is some leeway in service that tipped employees can give and if you treat us well we will go out of our way to try to make sure you have a good experience, but if we remember you as a stiff you will get the shittiest service we can get away with giving you and if there is a way we can screw you and not get in trouble, you are screwed.

    Tipping is your choice, we have a choice in how we treat you. Choose wisely.

  8. not an infanticidal cocksucker says:

    I deliver pizza for a living. I’m also a goddam genius. Just really poor and unlucky. I deliver pizza in Viera FL. Look it up. It’s quite rich……(ignore the median income, it’s largely republican tax dodgers) and it has a large Indian community. (all gated) A few (very few) Indians tip me about a dollar or two, but most completely stiff me. I know boo hoo right? This topic incenses many people, and it’s easy to spot who is generous (trustworthy humble, and generally with a higher level of adversity in life) and who is purely motivated for self gain at all times (dishonest, manipulative, unable to see beyond that locked door in their minds and quite often having never actually worked a day in their lives…handed everything etc.) I really fucking hate to be honest here, but Indians (in this particular city) in actuality are very ungrateful. It is simply a fact. They cannot stand other cultures, they seemingly act superior all the time and they are quite spoiled. Ha! They are truly becoming Americans. But seriously people, these people practice infanticide. They kill their baby daughters and continue to do so until they have a more profitable son…..OF COURSE THEY DON’T FUCKING TIP! THEY ARE BABY MURDERERS! Hahaha. All true bitches go ahead. defend that one swami.

    • Marie says:

      to the one calling indians baby murderers… pot, meet kettle. Pro “choice” liberals are pro baby murder, a few minutes of age doesnt change a damned thing. And since quite a few of the people here commenting pro tipping, are also, quite obviously liberals (it shows in the threats of spitting in peoples food, lazyness, and general bad attitude.. and i am FOR tipping people… imagine how you look to those who think you are soaking people to start with!! disgraceful) i just find it ironic. Now as to those who appreciate a good tip but are willing and able to give good service regardless, nothing but love. I dont go out if i cant afford a decent tip, period, because that is the way the system is set up and unless and until it is changed, it is NOT fair to short the service people simply because you dont like the way the system works.

      • me (not an infanticidal cocksucker) says:

        Not poking at you, but what do you mean by “soaking”. Yes I am proturbed. I randomly googled “why don’t Indians tip?” and this page caused me to freak the fuck out. Let’s not make this a political debate. You win…hands down every time. All religion is reality teflon and filthy hard working “liberals” like myself cannot possibly triumph in the face of power. In person, I am the most charming SOB you have ever met. Not handsome, but highly intelligent and polite. Not fake either. I come from a hell most other Americans can’t imagine. A lot of sexual abuse on one side, and complete abandonment from the other. I know boo hoo again. It is from this intense and unforgettable pain of childhood that I can truly and honestly be genuinely nice to people. And I RUN to the door. RUN. There are very few people whom I have ever met in my 38 years (might be lying about my age to protect my job…who knows) who could out perform me. It’s not exactly an astute observation you know….Indians generally don’t tip. I don’t give a shit if servers everywhere else in the world make a living wage. This is the USA… home of greed and outright lies….you know, the system. If Bhagwad doesn’t want to tip, I get it. Maybe he has been unfortunate enough to always have had a terrible server, but is that really likely? Also nice lady, poor Americans needing an abortion might not be able to afford that baby. Adoption….don’t make me laugh. This is quite different from culturally rejecting infant females for monetary gain. One comes from a place of need, the other from a place of archaic tradition (Due to terrible living conditions I know, no need to address that argument) Yes the infanticidal thing goes way way way too far. But I’m fucking angry. A generalization for a generalization. I have always out performed others around me in school and on the job. I have less than anyone I know and I’ve never been hooked on anything stronger than pot….and It’s been years since I bought a bag. This guys assertions sicken me as they are of a mindset that is based on Romney-esque (dammit there I go again) philosophy. Everyone is just a fucking parasite to the rich. When in actuality….blue collar schmoes like myself give this guy a place to eat, live, pretend to work, (perhaps thats unfair) and bitch about the circumstances of his being unhappy with being waited on hand and foot. Yes I am trying to improve my lot in life,…I am in school for nursing…have an AA (worthless) and an AS Chem Tech (chemistry my passion but degree worthless in my area). Stop being so ungrateful Indians. It is unbecoming. I won’t spit in your food. But some of you might actually need my help one day. This is a society. We are individuals but we are most definitely not separate. Help one another, and not just your fucking family and birds of the same feather. BTW, on a funny note, switched from Brighthouse to Earthlink internet a few years ago…(they are actually the same thing) Earthlink offered me a cheaper price. They outright lied about the deal and actually added 5 bucks to what I was paying previously. I kept their emails and ads, and sent an email of my own to the FCC. I literally wrote that the Indians at earthlink were “infanticidal cocksuckers” who were stealing from me, and that “now that theft is completely legal, I’m going to be rich very soon.” The FCC promptly informed me that earthlink would be correcting the situation. Which they did. I assume that many Indians here in the USA are here because the deplorable conditions in their country necessitate barbaric traditions for survival, and they simply want a better life. Fair enough. So do I. Tip me.

      • Marie says:

        Well, im not an indian (except where that means native american, ive got a bit of that in me) and as i said in the comment, i am for tipping. Im a former waitress myself (shows how long ago it was, by the terminology) so i know its not a cake walk job, and i know that how much you actually make varies greatly by where you work, and pizza places are some of the worst tipping places, delivery is worse yet. People dont figure you need much of a tip to bring a pizza out to them when you arent running around refilling glasses etc.. but they dont realize that you generally use your own vehicle, putting wear and tear on it, and sometimes have to buy your own gas as well, from your tips.. part of the problem there is that so many companies are now putting “delivery charges” on the bill… so it causes people to pause, and think… is that the tip? or am i supposed to give even more on top of the extra delivery charge? Me i figure the delivery charge either goes towards gas or right to the company, so i always tip, and if the weather is bad and the pizza is hot, i tip better, at my house you are usually gonna end up with 10 bucks in your pocket for 20 bucks worth of pizzas. I brought up abortion only because you brought up infanticide, and to me, they are one and the same thing, either way a baby ends up dead, and in india they used ultrasound for many years to find out the sex of their babies and then used abortion to kill them before they were born, was this somehow less horrific than killing them after they were born? I cant see how. A baby of the age it takes to know the sex is also old enough to feel every bit of the pain of having its limbs ripped off, its skin dissolved in salt water, or its skull pierced with scissors and its brains sucked out to collapse the skull… frankly were i an infant i would rather be left in the snow. Adoption, you laugh.. why do you laugh at the idea that a child will have a chance to live a full life in the home of people who want to give it that life? someone who wants an abortion would surely give up the child as soon as it was born, so it would be quickly adopted, unlike people who have babies to keep their man, or because they think they are cute, or whatever who end up abusing and neglecting, yet still hanging on to the child for years.. those poor children are much harder to find homes for, mainly because the selfish parents refuse to relinquish custody and love to yank the kid back into the horrible situation over and over again… (bitter foster parent, can you tell?? Luckily my daughter (i dont care about the legalities, shes my kid, im the one who is there for her when she needs some one, im the one who held her hand when she gave birth to my grandbaby and im the one who helped her learn to nurse and will be there again when my next grandbaby is born, her “biological” mother be damned.)) Granted, there is always a chance that an adopted or fostered child will end up in a crappy situation and be abused, but guess what, most of them live through it.. i did, and i was with my bio mother and step father.. .like you i was abused, sexually by my step father and physically by both, though my mother only beat the crap out of me a couple times, the rest was benign neglect and leaving me to the mercies of my step father… but here comes the point… IM ALIVE… and once i turned 18 i was able to get out of that situation and make my life what *I* wanted it to be.. yes i still carry the scars, but i found a wonderful man, got married, weve been together for 21 years and i have 4 beautiful children who would not exist if not for me, and one beautiful and grateful foster daughter who might not have made it out of her situation alive if it werent for me, and whos beautiful children might not exist.. so yes.. being born, even in a bad situation, trumps being killed before birth any time. Also let me address another fallacy in your “abortion is different from infanticide” argument… poor mothers… a good percentage of abortions are NOT to “poor mothers” who cannot afford a baby, but to married, middle aged women who simply do not want another child, either right now, or ever. Or do not want one until their career is settled, or any number of other spurious and selfish reasons. Again, adoption, or, heres a thought, stop being so damned selfish and appreciate your child… do you know how many women have MULTIPLE abortions and then when their career is finally where they want it, or they have the big house in the suburbs or whatever other spurious reason they “put off” having children (by killing the oldest) realize that they are now in their mid thirties or above, have scarring from their abortions, their bodies are polluted with chemicals from years of birth control pills (yes, despite what “now” tells you, contraceptive use (and failure) goes hand in hand with abortion, and the rise in the rate of use for each mirrors the other, unlike the hogwash they spout like “free contraceptives and sex ed will reduce or end the need for abortion…” hogwash. it only continues to cheapen the value and perception of human life to the point that a woman can casually say “im not ready to be a mother yet” (clue, too late, when you are pregnant, you are already a mother… abortion just makes you the mother of a dead baby that YOU ordered the hit on) and hire someone to murder her child. The fact that many thousands more babies are killed by abortion than by infanticide, even in countries like india, should tell you that “out of sight, out of mind” is a powerful thing… you dont see the baby before you have an abortion.. so its easier to kill.

        You probably didnt bother to read this, and it doesnt matter, im done with this conversation, i spent years arguing with people over this and all i got was a nervous tic whenever the subject comes up.. im just going to leave you with one little statistic… 56,000,000… that is 56 MILLION abortions, JUST in the US, JUST since roe v wade.. and that is reported abortions. Think about that for a little while. Ok one more.. 3,500.. that is how many we (the US) are averaging in a single DAY. More americans than died in the twin towers on 9-11, every, single, day.

  9. oh yeah I almost forgot... says:

    I almost completely forgot to address this,….Is Bhagwads distaste for tipping simply an expression of superiority, and if so, is this just the caste system rearing it’s ugly biased head?

    • bhagwad says:

      People see what they want to see. I don’t recollect talking about “superiority” anywhere in my post. So the thought must have come from within you and probably reflects a great deal about the way you think.

      • I agree says:

        People whom feel superior (myself included) generally don’t outright insinuate it. It comes through in actions and behaviors….my using a slightly more expansive vocabulary for instance is a perfect example, although you would never spot me from my clothing. I am a pauper. To be honest, I barely skimmed your reasons. Very ignorant on my part. The fury went straight into words. I work for a die hard Christian Republican (Obama is a nigger, and all of his/her (still paranoid enough to try and retain a greater deal of anonymity) employees are parasites etc.) whom is at the very core, the problem. Not once in many years (8) has this employer showed any interest in elevating any hard worker above a lazy one. The hard workers are few and far between. This employer would never consider increasing pay for top performers, nor would they fire the lazies to find better employees as a means to alleviate the unbalanced work load suffered by said top performers. I am not entitled to any kind of assistance whatsoever. I am quite literally stuck here…basically as a slave. You are the rock, and my employer is the hard place. You insinuate that I have some control over a judgmental, unintelligent right wing christian idiot whose father just happened to give him/her a lot of money. Between you Bhagwad, and my employer, you are far more intelligent. So why not see things how they are. Be a softer rock…is all I will suggest. Sorry for calling your race “infanticidal”. It was completely unfair and came from a place of great anger. Shukria. I obviously don’t know how to spell thank you in Hindi. (again I’m making assumptions. So do you.)

      • also says:

        the swami comment was way out of line too. forgive me….I am just a sentient animal after all. (no sarcasm I really believe that)

  10. Mandi says:

    Blake you can take your right or left hand and make sweet love to yourself. Because I highly doubt you ever get laid.

  11. Mandi says:

    Blake, my dear, your responses are so terribly uncreative and boring. I’ve had more entertaining arguments with children.
    I think any waitress you attempt to slum it with would rather have their lady parts sewn shut than have sex with the likes of you.

  12. Jess says:

    I got the needle, when we doing this ladies?

  13. Jake says:

    There people go again, throwing the word “retarded” around like it’s not insulting to people with real mental issues. Samual, do you mind telling me where you live? I would love to come and beat your fucking face and your head in, until you’re “retarded”. That way you can join the ranks of mentally disabled like me! Except that I wouldn’t have to wear a diaper or a napkin due to the drool.

  14. Kat says:

    Oh really? That’s all I do? I bring you food and that’s all? So I don’t get you your drink, answer any questions you have on the extensive menu, handle any changes you want made to your food (I.E. no mushrooms, extra cheese etcetera…), refill your drinks, handle the pissed off cooks if anything is done wrong, handle every little desire you have…. Oh wait lets not forget the lemon wedges you want for your beverage… I cut those. Oh that salad and soup you want? I prepare that for you, and arrange it on the plate so it doesn’t look like somebody just slopped it on a plate for you.

    Oh that hot fudge brownie sundae you want? Oh wait it’s me who heats it up, and prepares everything for you. But yeah I just bring you your food, deal with your shitty attitude with a sweet smile and soothing words. Oh you hated this? Let me get you something else… And then go back and have to have the cook make it.

    Oh but I only hand your food to you. I don’t actually work… Oh and lets not forget, the salt pepper and sugar shakers on the counter? I fill and clean those. The small pitcher of creamer? I clean them, make the creamer, and fill them. Oh your dirty table? I bus and clean that. The floors? Oh I mop those too. Oh you have a smudge of food on your menu? Yup you guessed it, I’m,m the one who cleans those. Oh your special sheet in the menu is dirty? I’m the one that takes it apart, and replaces it with a clean one.

    Oh wait you have to pay. Guess what? I check you out on the cash register too! Oh you want stuff to go? I prepare and get everything ready for you.

    But seriously I don’t have a real job. I don’t really work at all. So I don’t deserve a tip.

    I work my ass off every single day to make a living. No it isn’t the job I want, nor will I do it for the rest of my life. But I make decent money through tips, and the restaurant I work at is filled with amazing coworkers, the best boss I could ever hope to have, and we make each and every long day standing on our feet and running around a fun filled day.

    And for those people who are jackasses and do not tip, maybe you should actually try being waitstaff. You would be singing a different tune.

    Also I do want to point out, it is the hardest workers, and the people with the crappiest jobs who work the hardest. Those of you with giant salaries and who are too “high class” to tip, you just sit on your asses all day long and don’t understand what WORKING means.

    And no, I don’t spit in people’s food, or screw with their orders. I’m not that kind of person. But if someone who stiffs me comes in and sits in my section again, and demands the same service is a moron. If you come sit in my section you will get a tiny glass of water, put in your order. I won’t bring you your drinks, your sides will take forever to get out to your table, and I will withhold you order for a long while, and leave it sitting there so it comes out lukewarm. I won’t check up on you, you won’t see me again actually. And if you try to flag me down I will walk into the back where you can’t follow me. And my boss will stand by and laugh, because if she was a waitress again she would do the same exact thing. Oh and when you would go up to complain we will just point at a sign hanging on the wall stating COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT IS 300 MILES AWAY.

    If you don’t tip me, don’t expect good service. End of story. I mean ya’ll do know what TIPS stands for right? TO INSURE PROPER SERVICE.

  15. Ren says:

    You will be fired so fast.

  16. Jake says:

    If that’s the requirements for being a waiter or waitress, You’d fit right in. Have at it dumbass.

  17. Jake says:

    Obviously you have been living a fantasy life if you think I’d be fired for kicking someone’s ass. At best I’d be arrested for assault and temporarily suspended from my non waiting job. Woopty doo. Come at me, bro.

  18. Brad says:

    Complain to your employer for giving you a shitty wage. Do not throw your frustration at the customers for having a crappy job. You waiters /waitresses tipping is OPTIONAL. If you don’t like that term, DON’T WORK FOR $2.50 an hour.

  19. tehy says:

    You know, it’s funny how you could make the argument that tipping isn’t necessarily bribing, thus possibly justifying it. And yet, every word typed by these waiters convinces me that it totally is. Saying you won’t give me the best service or w/e if I don’t tip is debatable, but the kind of behavior talked about here is insane. Bringing me my meals when they are ready is your JOB, as is being available to acquire new orders, writing down orders on a piece of paper, et cetera. Spitting in my food or any of that crap is illegal. So often waiters mention ‘free refills’ as a reason to tip; also illegal, and smacks of bribery to commit crimes. Plus, why not just pay for the refills? Why do I have to pay you extra for you to do your JOB? The correct situation would be for you to get paid minimum wage (or whatever you’re really worth), and then we can just pay more for food. Of course, that would lead to you getting paid what you’re actually worth, and you wouldn’t want that, now would you?

    Also, you really sound like a whiny bitch when you talk about cutting lemon wedges as a separate part of the job. Ditto for all that other stuff, some of it is legitimate but mostly it’s just nonsense.

  20. David says:

    So you write a few extra words down with the specifics of how/what somebody wants on their food, and the chef has to prepare it. This warrants a tip? Seems like you’re doing whats in your job description.

    You refill my drinks? Sounds like the job description for the job you are doing. Mcdonalds employees refill my drinks, so that’s not special to the experience and I don’ t see how that deserves a tip. Especially when 90% of the time it would have been more convenient for there to be a machine for me to get my own refills. The refill argument is easily replaced by a fountain pop machine in the dining area.

    You have to deal with the “pissed off cooks” anyway. People in any profession of customer service deals with pissed off people all of the time, but don’t feel entitled to extra wages afterwards.
    You put my “hot” fudge sundae in the microwave for me, and served my “hot fudge sundae” to me hot? That seems like a daunting task to serve a menu item the way it is supposed to be served.

    I never have a shitty attitude at a restaurant, why would I go out to eat while im pissed off or in a bad mood? There are customers who are miserable and will make work harder for you, like any customer service job, get over it.
    The fact you are doing the job of the busboy/custodial team shouldn’t fall on my conscience, but instead the employers paying you a fair wage.

    Im pretty sure it’s common practice for a restaurant to have full salt/pepper shakers, and full condiments. That’s not going above and beyond to provide exceptional service; it’s a basic task which every restaurant does.

    When I want to pay you print off a receipt and bring it to me, another task in your job description while being hired. That is not a special task and nothing to brag about or use as an argument to warrant tips. Most of the time the server brings me a to-go container to my table and I box my leftovers myself, why should they be tipped for that?

    In the past, I worked as a security guard at Medieval Times. I made 10.25/hour and worked 40 hours a week. On top of that I took on many responsibilities of the cleaning staff, and even the bar staff. Cleaners made 14 an hour and I was making 10.25 doing their duties. I would also help the bar clean up at the end of the night, take deliveries at shipping and receiving and set up kegs/store alcohol in the fridges downstairs. Run bottles to them if they were running low, bring drinks to tables sometimes and was in charge of cutting people off when they got too drunk. They made 10.25 PLUS tips, and all I would hear from them is complaining when a table left a 10 dollar tip on a 150 dollar bill. EVERY SINGLE DAY someone would be complaining about it when they just made over a hundred dollars in tips plus 10.25 an hour on a 4 hour shift. They would start after me, leave before me, and walk out of the building with more in tips than I made working my whole shift helping them, plus walked out with an hourly wage equal to mine. And this is Medieval Times, a fixed menu where servers walk with trays and place the same thing on every plate, yet they felt hard done by when they didn’t get a tip over 15%. They didn’t deserve a tip at all.
    15-20 dollars per beer and 60 per meal. Because they decide to charge 20 for a budweiser I should tip 4 dollars on every one of them, when down the street a budweiser is $4. So for the EXACT same product, and, description wise, the EXACT same service I should tip them only a dollar?

    If both were being paid the same (fair) wage, there wouldn’t be a gap in the income of different servers. If tips were used the way they were intended to be (for exceptional service, not just to be treated like a human and served at all) it would benefit way more servers than would be hurt by it. Making a livable wage and then having the public giving OPTIONAL tips would ensure that the majority of servers could survive.

    Servers are the worst people because they complain like they’re so hard done by (because of the public and not their employer) when they’re really just doing whats expected of them in their job description. The fact that tips are expected, or even demanded (by the way servers act) regardless of them going above and beyond their job description makes tipping a terrible practice.

    The all familiar saying now “If you cant afford to tip, don’t go to a restaurant”

    why is that the saying? Why should I not be able to go get basic service when I am glad to pay the listed price? (which is inflated to cover costs of wages/restaurant expenses) I’m really the scum of the earth because your restaurant is charging 700-1000% inflated prices on a shot of alcohol, and I’m expected to also pay your workers wage by paying an additional fee for them doing their job?

    why is the saying not “If you can’t afford to pay a reasonable wage, don’t open a restaurant”
    I’m not saying it is easy being a server, but the difficulty of your job should not be a reason for me to pay you more than I have to. A lot of jobs are hard, and require a hell of a lot more experience than it takes to be a server yet they’re getting paid fair wages and not relying on the consumer to pay extra than the marked price.

    Servers can shift the blame to the public for not coming in and dropping 20% extra on their bill instead of blaming the person who makes them rely on that 20%, but it just makes servers look like whiny, ungrateful and narrow minded people to me.
    I have never met a server who doesn’t complain about tips at every chance possible, even when some are making more than $150+ for 4 hours of work. I’d love to see them find another job with the level of experience/education they have where they can make a wage like that.
    Id imagine that most of the time the ones complaining about how their wages rely on tips are the ones who are making more money than somebody with a job like that should, and would make less money if they were offered a fair wage. You hate me for not tipping, instead of hating that you have to rely on tips because your employer pons the responsibility of paying you a livable wage on the consumer. That is why there are people doing the exact same job (maybe even easier), but because they’re prettier, or at a more expensive restaurant, they’re able to live off of tips and you cant. And that’s apparently my fault.

    Tipping should be for above and beyond service, not for the very basic service provided by any restaurant (getting refills, writing down what somebody wants/doesn’t want/allergies, being friendly to me, smiling and not looking miserable, and bringing me the bill)
    I’d much rather put a tip directly in the pocket of the chef who cooked me my meal (the reason for going out, not to interact with a server), than to give it to somebody just relaying me the thing I am there for. You don’t tip the FedEX dude ontop of shipping and handling prices for bringing you the package you ordered. Instead, im forced to feel obligated to tip the server who gives like 1% of that to the chef.

    I bet if restaurants gave the option of offering a Tip section or a No tip section, in which there is a machine to get your own refills, a computer to punch in your own order at your table, and a window to pick up your meal when it is finished being cooked and you pay on your way out, it would flourish. It would probably destroy the service industry once employers realized that it’s not only quicker, but also a lot cheaper and safer for liability suits.

    I know everybody is programmed to hate me due to my view on tipping, and I am aware that I’m going to hear it from servers who have misplaced hatred and play the victim. Get mad at the laws, the employers and workers rights before you get mad at somebody who has no obligation to make sure you can make a living off of your job.

  21. Kat says:

    Oh trust me we all have.

    But I can complain about you assholes who come in to eat, and expect for me to be your own personal servant. No matter what my wage, I’m not a personal servant, nor will I ever be treated like one.

    Or the people who are nasty, rude, and overall enjoying making my good day turn into a completely shitty one.

    Oh and tipping is optional. If you would come into my workplace, not tip me, even though I gave you great service, and you came back in again on a different day, then it is my option whether to give you good service, or service at all. People like you will never get a refill, checked up on, I will intentionally give you a fucked up order… Oh dessert? Nope since I will not go anywhere near your table, nor will any of my coworkers. Nobody will help you, and if you walk over to us, we will smirk, laugh, and ignore you. And when you get up and leave, we will stand there and laugh at you. Everyone seems to forget the golden rule of don’t piss off the people that handle your food. ((Oh and the best part is that I will have already gone to my boss, and told her what was going on, and she would support us, and not listen to any of your complaints! And will outright say, well if you had tipped her last time…))

  22. Kevin says:

    Couldn’t agree more

  23. ummm bro? says:

    “DON’T WORK FOR $2.50 an hour.” Are you fucking serious? If you actually assume people have a choice then you are a spoiled brat who was handed everything in life. People have to take what is on offer….dying of pneumonia under a bridge is not a survival strategy….thats what happens to most Americans (not the kind whose mommies and daddies paid for everything…like you) who decide they are not going to work because the only thing on offer is still poverty level pay.

  24. loly says:

    hi Kat,

    you make waiting sound like some scientific job that demands talents and skills. almost every job that demands customer service require human interaction and invlove complains. not everyone gets a tip. you took a $2 an hour job. deal with it

  25. loly says:

    you sound like you hate doing your job. please quit. I do not get a tip where I work. There are good days and bad days, but that is life. I like what I do so I continue to do with a smile on my face and with no tip

  26. tehy says:

    All wait staff seem to forget the golden rule of DO YOUR JOBS.

    You people think you’re fucking gods? That’s fine, I’ll find another pantheon, and by that I mean restaurant.

    And no, don’t tell me every wait staff acts like this. See, your boss is clearly more interested in being ‘cool’ then maintaining her job (or keeping herself financially afloat, if she is the owner). Some restaurants actually realise that keeping on petty staff more obsessed with tips than anything else hurts your business, since those are PAYING CUSTOMERS. I’ll give my custom to them, instead.

  27. Marie says:

    No, see, you dont have that right. Yes, tipping is optional, SERVICE from a SERVICE PROFESSIONAL (so called, in your case) is NOT optional, it is your JOB. And i say this having been on both sides of the issue, and actually being a good tipper AND a good server. You are not a good server, you are an entitled, spoiled brat, from what you have posted, and your manager is stealing from her employer (or maybe just herself if she owns the place, thats on her) by letting you behave this way towards the customers. You should grow up a little and admit that people like me, who give excellent tips, even when the service is sub par (i always assume you are having a bad day, had a family crisis, are coming down with something, whatever, maybe poor servers should let us know ahead of time so we can tip accordingly, just as some (maybe you?) have suggested poor tippers do. Oh and that whole “to insure prompt service” thing, you know thats a myth right? It used to be called a “gratuity” and still is on most official paperwork, because if someone is GRATEFUL that you have served them well, they may give you a gratuity. You should check your privilege.

    Here is a “tip” for your edification, and that of every nitwit on this board who spouts the “to (e)nsure prompt service” nonsense… http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/tip.asp

  28. David says:

    I would run my bill up and not pay it, then see whos laughing when it comes out of your cheque

  29. brittnee says:

    Hahaha I find this hilarious, I make anywhere from $15-
    $45 an hour where I work serving tables, I bust my ass and deal with drunk shit people all the time, but do I complain? I work for 5hours and walk with $300 don’t be mad cuz your bachelor’s degree makes you less than I do, ahhh awe :( and just speaking on my behalf if you tip me bad or not at all, I just feel sorry for you. that you can have me as your own personal slave,and revert back to the olden days. I deserve your tip. And if I don’t get it ? I smile and am thankful for the people who do. Xoxoxo go fuck yourself guy

  30. brendon says:

    No please don’t. Just stay home. It’s obvious this stuff is way over your head.

  31. erwt says:

    I like your attitude, brittnee :) You do your job regardless of whom don’t tip you. You see that you deserve tip even if someone else might not share this vision with you but you do your job in which you were hired. You don’t use a stupid logic like, I’ll spit on your food or drink if you don’t tip me. You don’t use stupid logic like my employer is not responsible for my wages but the society is, and they should empathize with my poorly paid job and therefore tip well. You know your job is to serve and you’re thankful to whom tipping although you’re not well behaved I see from your language.. but again maybe this is one qualification that suits some bad customers!!

  32. brittnee says:

    Remember my poor non-tipping customers, I deserve your tip and if I don’t get it, You all deserve to get fucked. Xoxoxo

  33. Ali says:

    You don’t deserve a tip AT ALL. IT IS YOUR JOB TO SERVE REGARDLESS IF YOU’RE TIPPED OR NOT. Why? Because you were HIRED by THE RESTAURANT to SERVE. They are the ones who PAY YOU. Not the customers. Tipping is just extra and OPTIONAL. This whole “I deserve to be tipped even though I’m suppose to be doing my job” is ridiculous.

    If I don’t want to tip. I won’t. I didn’t hire the server, the restaurant did. I just pay the food. THAT IS ALL I’M REQUIRED TO DO. Nothing more.

  34. Jess says:

    @Ali, slavery is out the door my friend. A servers job is to bring your food out, everything else they do is extra so why wouldnt they deserve extra? There have been times where I’ve left my restaurant because we were out of something that my customers were in the mood for, such as tea etc. This sure as hell wasn’t in my job description, and I wasnt reimbursed for this action by my employer because going the extra mile isn’t in the job description. Our employer basically pays us for the minimum effort if anything, everything else we do isnt in our job description but you seem to be all for slavery so have at it. (:

  35. tehy says:

    You’re getting paid.


    Please, explain to me how that’s slavery exactly?

    It’s great that you’re going the extra mile to make the customer happy. Many employees do that. They don’t expect or get tips or rewards from management, just job satisfaction (and return customers.)

    Why should you be different, exactly?

  36. tehy says:

    You are literally getting paid money in a job you can leave at any time.

    So basically, no resemblance to slavery at all.

    He’s not required to pay you jack, the restaurant itself is required to do that, and we all want waiters to just get paid a normal wage.

    But hey, as long as you bring something like slavery into the argument, maybe you can muddle the issues enough to pretend like you’re not wrong, right?

    To digress here, good for you. Plenty of employees do stuff like that. They don’t expect or get tips or rewards from management. What they do get is satisfaction and return customers. Why should you be any different?

  37. tehy says:

    well the first comment didn’t appear to go through

    so yeah, please just delete the first one

  38. Julie says:

    Yes, tipping is optional. Yes, waitresses/waiters do not get paid enough an hour. And yes, they agree to work with these standards because the majority of people tip them well. This is because the people who tip well are decent humans. People who do not tip because they think they’re “above” wait staff are simply assholes. And not people I’d ever want to associate with. You not tipping the wait staff reflects far more on you than it does on them. Stop being such a stingy, uptight dick and try to do something nice for someone else. Jesus, this article was beyond pathetic.

  39. Jess says:

    I get the impression you’re not rich or important. I’ve never heard of a Scott miller, therefore you’re nobody of interest or value. And to think anyone even wants to serve you makes me laugh; trust me, I wouldn’t feel honored at all, probably sorry for you, if you’re lucky (:

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