5 reasons why I won’t tip you if you’re a waiter

It never fails to shock me how a tip is demanded in the US. People simply refuse to listen to reason when we (yes, there are others!) tell them that leaving a tip isn’t necessary. Well, I’m hoping for too much here, but if you’re a waiter, here are 5 reasons why I will try my best not to give any money to you and why the reasons for tipping are crappy.

1. You act as if you’re my best friend

Just leave me alone ok? I don’t want to bloody chit chat with you. I want food. FOOD! Get it? It’s a restaurant. I go there to eat. I go because I want either Italian food, Chinese Food or something else which I can’t get in a McDonald’s. So I come to a restaurant to fulfill my cravings for it. I will pay for what I value – food. Not you.

Christ, you offend me – kneeling down next to my table, pretending to like me and chatting as if you’re my best friend when it’s obvious that all you’re after is the tip! I’m not a bloody money bag you know. I will pay the bill which includes the cost of the food, the environment and the salaries of the people involved – nothing more.

The only way to get money out of me that I don’t have to legally pay is by prying it out of my cold dead hands…

Bottom line: I don’t want to know your name, or interact with you for any longer than I have to in order to place my order. As far as I’m concerned, you’re the equivalent of a conveyor belt that brings me my food and a computer into which I input my order. Of course, I won’t be rude. But don’t expect me to interact with you any more than I would with some stranger.

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2. You don’t get paid enough

And this is my problem how exactly? It’s astonishing that customers are expected to make up for your employer’s cheapness in not paying you a decent wage. Please include the full cost in everyone’s bill thank you very much. I’ll pay it because I have to and the charge is there for me to see.

What’s really funny here is that no one seems to criticize the employers! All criticism is reserved for non tipping customers instead of the owners of the restaurant for not paying a decent wage. Wtf! Could it possibly be because you guys know you can make much more by tips and under report your income to the IRS?

3. You’ll spit in my food if I don’t tip you?

And I’ll shoot your kid if you don’t give me a million dollars. Seriously, am I even hearing this right? You’re actually using the threat of blackmail to make me pay you? Well as long as you’re openly claiming to be a criminal it’s all right I guess.

Fortunately that’s why I prefer buffets. Listen apart from it being illegal, this shows your poor integrity. But if you spit in someone’s food because they didn’t give you money you didn’t earn, then you’re a loser and deserve to be a waiter for the rest of your life.

4. Bringing me my food isn’t worthy of being paid extra

Did you cook it? Did you invent it? No. You picked it up and brought it to me. While it might not be easy, there are plenty of jobs which are much worse – shop floor workers for example. And I’ve been a shop floor manager, so I know. Face it – compared to other jobs, being a waiter is unskilled. You get paid what the market will think your services are worth. You don’t deserve more for your work over and above what your employer should pay you.

5. Money doesn’t grow on trees

I expect you to be grateful and pray for me at night if I tip you 10%. Be happy I gave you anything at all. I worked for the money in my wallet and by giving you some I didn’t have to, I’m doing you a favor. Learn to remember that when people give you something they don’t need to, it’s a favor. You don’t complain that they didn’t give you more!

By the way, the same thing above applies to all professions that demand tips including those on cruise liners.

So now that you understand why I won’t give you money you don’t deserve, stop with the “oh how could you?” attitude. I can. And I will.

Update: Here’s a rebuttal of the many silly justifications for tipping that people have given in the comments section.

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  1. This sounds like it’s been written by someone who has never worked in the service industry and has no idea what they are talking about :)
    Do my job for one night asshat. I dare you. And if you actually follow up on this challenge, I can’t wait to read your article on how this one was one big mistake and you have more empathy for the hardworking people of the food industry.

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    • 16 yr old server says:

      In reply to Jane

      Jane you are the reason why people think servers are so stupid. We make $2.13 in our base pay. If that plus tips does not equal federal minimum wage the employer has to make up the difference. If state minimum wage is more money they have to pay that wage instead.

      Being a waiter was the easiest job I’ve ever had. I worked as a lifeguard last year at a state park. It was hard work. We were treated like military recruits to keep us in top physical shape.

      You are a lazy bitch
      I am just a 16-year-old. This kind of job is only made for teens and people just looking for a little extra cash. If you do this shit for a living you are such a loser.

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      • In reply to 16 yr old server

        If you are 16 you obviously haven’t been a server at a legitimate place and not for long. It was at what? Denny’s for 2 mos? Can’t compare – nice try!

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      • 16 yr old server says:

        In reply to Bethany

        I am a waiter at Ruth Chris Steak House. This is the easiest job I ever had in my life. As an adult you should be ashamed of yourself.

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      • Samantha says:

        In reply to 16 yr old server

        There is a special spot in hell reserved for ignorant teenagers like you. It’s called the throne.

        Why don’t you give us a little something about yourself?
        Age?
        Male, obviously
        Ethnicity?

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      • Samantha says:

        In reply to Samantha

        Also, I’m kind of guessing you still live at home with your parents since your 16? Well these people don’t, and need the money. Correct me if I’m wrong, but you sir are a grade A CUNT!

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Samantha

        Wow! Stupid, sexist AND racist? Their name is literally “16 yr old server,” so why the hell are you asking their age?

        And you’re pissed because they’re pointing out that the job isn’t hard just because you think it is? Several of us have done waiting and don’t think it’s hard. If you do, you’re going to have a hell of a time doing anything else in your life.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        I’m sure your career as a carousel supervisor is everything you’d hoped it would be, fucker.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Fuck You

        What the fuck are you talking about?

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      • In reply to 16 yr old server

        Ruth’s Chris has you pay everyone to do your job for you. You get 10% to blow out your ass. You’re not a server at R.C. Because they’d never hire a 16 yo to sell their steak. You’re a fucking backwaiter.

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      • In reply to 16 yr old server

        Aw blowing a whistle must’ve been hard work.

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  2. Bhagwad Jal Park you are fuck*n stupid, and retarded.

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  3. When you go to a restaurant you dont only pay for your food, but for the service. If you can’t afford to tip go to fast food restaurants or cook your own food at home. God bless you and have a great day.

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    • What a joke says:

      In reply to Hostess

      Tipping is a gratuity. It’s optional by definition.

      Servers do no more work than fast food workers (and fast food workers have to work at a faster pace, plus do prep work on certain food items), no matter how much they want to believe they do. We’ve had several people who have worked both jobs confirm that fact. Fast food workers do not get tips.

      And, most importantly, servers are the employee of the restaurant. Patrons of the restaurant pay the restaurant directly for their meals, which includes the overhead of costs. It is the restaurant’s responsibility to pay their employee, not the customer, and they do.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        I’ve worked fast food and been a server bartender manager etc. severs work way harder then fast food employees and then have to tip out up to 5% of their sales to people helping them. So you don’t tip? Then that server is essentially paying for you to eat. Big you can’t afford to eat don’t go out to eat.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Maxwell

        If you think working as a server was harder than working fast food, you’re delusional. We’ve had maaaany people say otherwise, and I personally know maaaany people who have done both and said the same.

        You’re also lying about tipping out. A legal tip pool may only consist of people who qualify as tipped employees in the first place.

        According to the Department of Labor:
        “The requirement that an employee must retain all tips does not preclude a valid tip pooling or sharing arrangement among employees who customarily and regularly receive tips, such as waiters, waitresses, bellhops, counter personnel (who serve customers), bussers, and service bartenders. A valid tip pool may not include employees who do not customarily and regularly received tips, such as dishwashers, cooks, chefs, and janitors.”

        http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs15.pdf

        The law says a tipped employee must legally be allowed to keep all their tips, with the exception of participation in a tip pool (which MAY be required by the restaurant). However, legally only those people who actually ****regularly**** receive tips are allowed to participate in a tip pool.

        If your place of employment is violating the law in this regard, that is neither the customer’s problem or responsibility to do something about it. It is your responsibility to report and/or take legal action regarding it.

        And this is beyond the fact that you are already being paid to do your job, and it’s not the customer’s responsibility, nor a requirement, to tip you in the first place.

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      • Bethany Fleischer says:

        In reply to What a joke

        You have no idea what you are talking about. It is not a “tip pool” , as you call it. I’ve worked as a server/bartender for 20 yrs- I worked in fast food for 1 year before that (I know- my life is grand!) 90% of restaurants operate this way (that have servers, bartenders, hostesses, food runners, bussers, etc. the server takes a percentage of his/her tips at the end of the night and divvies them out to each person. Not bc the employees bullies them into it, but bc it is part of the pay for the busser/bartender, etc. busser usually gets paid $5-7 an hour (for example) so they get some tips for the evening , but not as many as the server, obviously. Foodrunner usually get paid a bit more than the busser. Depends on the establishment. This way the servers can ask for help for. These people all night and not feel bad- they’re going to tip them out later anyway. They’re my lifelines!

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Bethany Fleischer

        I posted the link to the Federal Laws on it, dumbass.

        Federal law says first and foremost that all employees must receive at least Federal minimum wage with or without tips. All of them. Every single one. If a tipped employee does not receive enough in tips that, combined with their hourly wage, does not equal at least the minimum wage, the employer MUST pay the difference.

        Again, this is FEDERAL LAW. It supersedes State law except where it is more favorable to the employee (like if the minimum wages are higher).

        Second, Federal law states that a tipped employee must LEGALLY be allowed to keep all their tips with the ONLY exception being a tip pool in which a percentage or all tips are shared between employees. To be a legal and valid tip pool the employees participating must be employees who traditionally AND REGULARLY receive tips. In other words, they must qualify as a tipped employee from a legal standpoint, which means they must receive $30 or more in tips in a month.

        This, again, is the LAW. If an employer is NOT following this, they are breaking the law. If they are breaking the law, it is up to the server to do something about it.

        It is not the customer’s problem, nor their responsibility to make up for it.

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      • In reply to Bethany Fleischer

        What a joke posted the link for you regarding tipping pool laws. You have no idea what you’re talking about because your reading and comprehension skills are that of an elementary school child.

        You are very simple and stupid. The law was posted in the link, there is nothing to argue about.

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      • Served at 4 different restaurants says:

        In reply to What a joke

        Alllllllll restaurants make you tip out bussers and bartenders if you have them because they are both also paid less than minimum wage and considered tipped employees. The fact that you don’t know that means you haven’t worked in a restaurant. So maybe you should keep your mouth shut.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Served at 4 different restaurants

        For crying out loud, you ignorant piece of shit, I have repeatedly pointed out in this thread alone that it is AGAINST THE LAW and if they do it that is YOUR PROBLEM NOT OURS to deal with. YOU have to file a complaint with the Department of Labor and YOU have to sue for unpaid wages.

        And NOT ONE OF YOU makes less than minimum wage. By law.

        Above all else it’s YOUR choice to work there under those conditions, either way. Don’t play the victim card or whine about it.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Served at 4 different restaurants

        I mean honestly, if they raped you up the arse every bloody night would you just come here and whine about it while going back to it every bloody day and not file a single complaint as well?

        The amount of stupidity here with people who can’t even be arsed to read official documents from the Department of Labor that tell them their rights and would rather sit and cry and play “poor me” all flipping day is unbelievable. They should literally pay you nothing and beat you with a rod when you screw up simply out of the fact they could clearly get away with it and you wouldn’t do a damn thing about it.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        I knew that sooner or later all the stupidity found here would put an end to your patients. I am surprised you were able to last this long.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to $Bill

        It’s the political season on top of this. People constantly spouting off about stuff they clearly don’t understand. I mean, people can’t seem to understand the political process alone!

        Then these idiots who have actually been reading the thread with links from the Department of Labor explaining what the freaking laws are and keep repeating the same bloody stupidity. It’s one thing when they’re randomly commenting because they haven’t bothered to read the comments, but when they’re replying TO PROOF with, “Durr, but they don’t do that…” it’s so frustrating.

        Oh well, at least we can drive up visits to pay for Bhagwad to eat out and not tip XD

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Served at 4 different restaurants

        I will make one addendum to my statement – IF an employer enforces a mandatory tip pool (tipping out) in which emoyees who do not earn tips participate, they may NOT claim the tip credit from any employee who participates in that pool.

        In other words – if they make you tip out to anyone who doesn’t earn tips, they have to pay you the full minimum wage plus you get to keep any of the tips you make otherwise.

        My statement still stands in terms of the legality of the repeatedly described and refuted scenario, as the situation specifically described is still illegal (tipping out to employees who do not receive tips while being paid a tipped wage). I just wanted to clarify this particular caveat.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        Well said. A bartender is a tipped employee, but a busser surely is not. If a server is forced to tip a busser…their employer is breaking the law. Same would go for a cook, hostess, manager, the dishwasher, etc.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        And this is why ignorance is a bliss and people actually think that fast food workers deserve $15.00/hr. First of all, I’m guessing a few of the serving nay sayers have also been sleeping during Economics 101 or just skipped it. Rate of pay, along with cost of goods and the sales of products, a profit margin, and other factors all go into running any business especially a Restaurant or Bar. To fast forward to my point specifically, this is why Tip Percentage’s in a Restaurant (what is customary in the U.S.A to tip) are based on the the total amount of a patrons food and beverage bill. Generally speaking, the higher cost of a restaurant’s products or menu items should mean a higher quality of goods AND SERVICES be given to a guest. For instance, I now work at a Cheesecake Factory as a server and a lot more is required of me then when I use to work at Applebee’s, and even though I still made the same hourly ($2.63/hr), I actually ended up making a substantial amount of more money hourly at the Cheesecake Factory. Last but certainly not least, I must say that although a Fast Food workers job may be more labor intensive, the skill set one must have to do this job is much lower compared to many different restaurants. If working as a cashier at McDonald’s was harder than my job at Cheesecake Factory as a server, I wouldn’t be making three or four times the amount of money hourly than those working at McDonald’s….. it’s kind of how a Free Market and Capitalism works. I do agree that serving isn’t the hardest job and a lot of servers do milk some self pity within the industry, but serving in itself is a unique job and can definitely build a strong foundation of work ethic, people skills, and many other qualities a person would want to have later in life just as a person surviving this world or a person looking to eventually further their career. I know that my 10 year career as a server and a bartender have given me people skills and my ability to read and understand people in ways only time and experience could give me and definitely not learned in any classroom, specifically any time spent earning my Bachelor’s degree in Nursing. Ok, my last argument I promise. Tipping is optional, but it is also so essential!! If servers made minimum wage or a higher wage per hour and Tipping wasn’t important, than service at all restaurants would fall close to the lazy fast food workers I have to deal with that never manage to get (let’s be generous) 5 orders right in a row or all those lame lifeguards my tax dollars go to pay that are only there to get a tan, assist anyone who needs CPR, nevermind the fact that it is now the norm for everyone to be CPR Certified, especially athletes from all shapes and sizes. You should always be prepared to leave a tip of 20% or more and then if the circumstances of your dining experience start to down grade so should your tip percentage. But if you are a cheap bastard and have no etiquette and was raised in a barn and just absolutely don’t like Tipping then by all means order out ya know order food from your favorite place to go instead and take it home. This is not Rocket Science. I also know for a fact that good tipping habits leads to good karma.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to SJPeacock

        The fact that you state that the cost of a restaurant means increased level of service is an outright admission that we are PAYING FOR SERVICE AS PART OF OUR MEAL.

        Also, there is no skillset required to be a server that is not necessary for any other job that doesn’t require taking off clothes. All of it is translatable into some form for other jobs or needed to get a job in the first place. There is nothing unique about it.

        And, for the love of God, you earn minimum wage. By law. Just because your bkss is allowed to deduct tips from your pay does not mean you get less than minimum wage legally.

        When you talk about lazy servers, you’re forgetting two facts: first, that the wage offered for a job is largely defined by whether they can find people willing to work for it; and, second, a server who does not perform to the standard of a restaurant will not keep their job, regardless of how much they are paid.

        It’s funny you talk about being raised in a barn and having no etiquette, since being worldly lowers one’s opinion on tips. Most of Europe tips very little, if at all, and only for exceptional service. In Asia it’s considered rude to tip. This is beside the fact that the service is actually better in those places. This is beside the fact that just previously in your own comment you stated that tipping should never be expected.

        If you know for a “fact” that tipping habits lead to good karma, then why is it the people who don’t tip aren’t losing all their money, and the people who accept tips are staying poor? Apparently karma says expecting money from people for a job you are already being paid to do is bad.

        Oh, and just a note on the structure of your comment. It feels like you were trying to come across as reasoned and intelligent in your argument, as if writing an essay. However, you manages to contradict your reasoning at least twice, and provide no actual valid points as to why anyone should actually tip. In the end your argument falls apart into to the same crap every other server comes here to spew. It’s the old, “You should because we want to be tipped!” argument that is not justifiable.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        And this is why ignorance is a bliss and people actually think that fast food workers deserve $15.00/hr. First of all, I’m guessing a few of the serving nay sayers have also been sleeping during Economics 101 or just skipped it. Rate of pay, along with cost of goods and the sales of products, a profit margin, and other factors all go into running any business especially a Restaurant or Bar. To fast forward to my point specifically, this is why Tip Percentage’s in a Restaurant (what is customary in the U.S.A to tip) are based on the the total amount of a patrons food and beverage bill. Generally speaking, the higher cost of a restaurant’s products or menu items should mean a higher quality of goods AND SERVICES be given to a guest. For instance, I now work at a Cheesecake Factory as a server and a lot more is required of me then when I use to work at Applebee’s, and even though I still made the same hourly ($2.63/hr), I actually ended up making a substantial amount of more money hourly at the Cheesecake Factory. Last but certainly not least, I must say that although a Fast Food workers job may be more labor intensive, the skill set one must have to do this job is much lower compared to many different restaurants. If working as a cashier at McDonald’s was harder than my job at Cheesecake Factory as a server, I wouldn’t be making three or four times the amount of money hourly than those working at McDonald’s….. it’s kind of how a Free Market and Capitalism works. I do agree that serving isn’t the hardest job and a lot of servers do milk some self pity within the industry, but serving in itself is a unique job and can definitely build a strong foundation of work ethic, people skills, and many other qualities a person would want to have later in life just as a person surviving this world or a person looking to eventually further their career. I know that my 10 year career as a server and a bartender have given me people skills and my ability to read and understand people in ways only time and experience could give me and definitely not learned in any classroom, specifically any time spent earning my Bachelor’s degree in Nursing. Ok, my last argument I promise. Tipping is optional, but it is also so essential!! If servers made minimum wage or a higher wage per hour and Tipping wasn’t important, than service at all restaurants would fall close to the lazy fast food workers I have to deal with that never manage to get (let’s be generous) 5 orders right in a row or all those lame lifeguards my tax dollars go to pay that are only there to get a tan, assist anyone who needs CPR, nevermind the fact that it is now the norm for everyone to be CPR Certified, especially athletes from all shapes and sizes. You should always be prepared to leave a tip of 20% or more and then if the circumstances of your dining experience start to down grade so should your tip percentage. But if you are a cheap bastard and have no etiquette and was raised in a barn and just absolutely don’t like Tipping then by all means order out ya know order food from your favorite place to go instead and take it home. This is not Rocket Science. I also know for a fact that good tipping habits leads to good karma.

        I know it’s good karma because it reflects on a person’s etiquette and moral behavior and this is why I’m pretty sure you’re an asshole and probably a well known asshole. And, you’re a special kind of ignorant asshole.

        Let me try to explain Economics 101 again…. the cost of your meal DOES NOT INCLUDE A GRATUITY. If I don’t make enough tips to cover minimum wage $2.63 an hour plus $4 an hour then I get fired because my guess is that if I’m making that shitty of tips then I’m not a good server. Every state differs in minimum wage. I also rarely get a paycheck because that small amount of money covers some of my taxes.

        I also never said that serving was hard, but it is a unique job that can offer some skills sets that other jobs may not offer.

        Next, service in European countries (except for fine dining) is a lot like the current trend in California is…. not good.

        I don’t know why I’m even arguing with you, my guess is by the way you find it so charming to insult people and talk down to people with this level of disgusting arrogance and the fact that you go around eating out and not tipping but just “expecting” service for free means you have no real friends and that quality of people being decent human doesn’t work for you. Just so you know, I as most servers can smell you come in a Restaurant from a mile a way therefore already knowing what type of person you are actually gives us great pleasure in giving you shitty service.
        P.S. Comparing Asian countries made up of countries ran by mostly religious fanatics, communism is not a good comparison to the United States.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to SJPeacock

        Okay, I’m going to break down your response and explain why you’re a moron. I’ll be skipping the part you copied and pasted from your original comment, as I’ve already pretty thoroughly covered that.

        **”I know it’s good karma because it reflects on a person’s etiquette and moral behavior and this is why I’m pretty sure you’re an asshole and probably a well known asshole. And, you’re a special kind of ignorant asshole.”**

        Actually, I’m pretty well liked. I volunteer with the homeless, since I’ve been in that position., and donate to scholarship funds. You see, I have pretty good morals. The fact that I believe people should not be paid extra for work they’re being paid to do is not immoral, nor does it make me an asshole. Look through the comments here from servers. Look through the threats of violence, look through the threats of poisoning. These are people attempting to extort others for personal gain. This is demanding money from people who are not their employers for work they’re being paid to do. That’s poor morals. That’s being an asshole.

        **”Let me try to explain Economics 101 again…. the cost of your meal DOES NOT INCLUDE A GRATUITY. If I don’t make enough tips to cover minimum wage $2.63 an hour plus $4 an hour then I get fired because my guess is that if I’m making that shitty of tips then I’m not a good server. Every state differs in minimum wage. I also rarely get a paycheck because that small amount of money covers some of my taxes.”**

        Gratuity is not required. It is, by its very essence, optional. Its very definition is:
        1. a gift of money, over and above payment due for service, as to a waiter or bellhop; tip.
        2. something given without claim or demand.
        http://www.dictionary.com/browse/gratuity

        I never said gratuity was included, I said YOUR PAY WAS INCLUDED. It is NOT the customer’s job to pay you. For any job. They’re not your employer, they are patrons of your employer. If they feel they want to leave a gratuity because of some extra service, then that’s up to them, but it should never be expected.

        If fewer and fewer people tip (or nobody), then your employer has no reason to fire you. However, the fact that you’re trying to blame the situation on the customer is bullshit. The customer isn’t making you work there, and the customer isn’t your cheap ass boss refusing to pay you. The law requires you make minimum wage – the FULL minimum wage – with or without tips. The default is the Federal minimum of $7.25, but specifically states that state laws that benefit the employee more (e.g. higher minimum wage), the state law applies.

        **”I also never said that serving was hard, but it is a unique job that can offer some skills sets that other jobs may not offer.”**

        And I distinctly pointed out that it’s not a unique job, and that there are no skills in the job that aren’t equivalent, or replicated at any other job.

        **”Next, service in European countries (except for fine dining) is a lot like the current trend in California is…. not good.”**

        Yeah, that’s not true at all. I travel a lot for work, and service in America is WAY worse than anywhere I’ve been. In America there’s this entitled attitude by service workers, where everywhere else they go out of their way to ensure the company they work for looks good and the customer is happy because happy customers mean more business – both from those customers, and from their friends and family who they recommend a place of business to. Strange you keep bringing up Economics 101, when the most basic understanding of econ is you can’t have a business with no customers.

        **”I don’t know why I’m even arguing with you, my guess is by the way you find it so charming to insult people and talk down to people with this level of disgusting arrogance and the fact that you go around eating out and not tipping but just “expecting” service for free means you have no real friends and that quality of people being decent human doesn’t work for you. Just so you know, I as most servers can smell you come in a Restaurant from a mile a way therefore already knowing what type of person you are actually gives us great pleasure in giving you shitty service.”**

        Again, service is part of dining out. It’s what you’re hired to do. You’re not hired to take gratuities from customers – that doesn’t benefit the restaurant in any way. You were hired to ensure the customers are happy, to take their orders, bring their food, possibly clean up, etc.. You were hired to make the restaurant look good to is patrons.

        It isn’t a matter of arrogance – I worked my way from homeless to the position I have now. I believe you get what you EARN. The work you put in. I’m proof of it. Karma, which you have brought up twice, says the same thing – you get back what you put in.

        As I pointed out, I’m pretty well liked. I have plenty of friends that have stuck around since I was broke and penniless. I wonder how many friends you could possibly have with the assumptive attitude you have here. Or the entitlement you exhibit by assuming that somehow doing your job means you should get paid extra from people who aren’t your employer.

        **”P.S. Comparing Asian countries made up of countries ran by mostly religious fanatics, communism is not a good comparison to the United States.”**

        Now we see how absolutely ignorant you are. China is socialist, and North Korea is totalitarian. South Korea is a constitutional republic, Japan is a constitutional monarchy (like the U.K.), and Singapore is a parliamentary republic.

        North Korea is “officially” an atheist state. China, by vast majority, is non-religious folk tradition, Confuscianist, or Taoist (there’s that karma you brought up!). South Korea is more non-religious than any one specific religion, followed by Buddhism, Protestantism, and Catholicism. Japan is mostly Shinto or Buddhist. Singapore is mostly Buddhist, followed by Christianity by population, with a large portion of non-religious as well.

        They’re most certainly not religious fanatics.

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      • In reply to SJPeacock

        First of all fast food workers do not deserve $15 an hour. Telling us that being a server requires skills is not only funny but delusional. The job by nature is unskilled and simple. You also get paid federal minimum-wage which is more than fair compensation for this joke of a job.

        As an adult you should be ashamed of yourself for having such a ridiculous job. This job is meant for teenagers and adults looking for just a little extra cash temporarily. It is not meant to support you or be a job you do for a living. You are a pathetic individual that will be poor his entire life.

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      • In reply to Maxwell

        You are a lying piece of shit to even say that you have to tip out 5% if you don’t receive any tip. Then you lie some more by saying the server is paying for me to eat. You can’t tip out what you have not received because it is a tax law violation.

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      • Logosrealm says:

        In reply to $Bill

        They are not lying. Where I work they take out at percentage of my sales to tip bartenders/barbacks food runners and bussers, weather I get tipped or not. On one bad 8 hour shift I lost money because it was based off sales, not tips

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Logosrealm

        If you can’t be bothered to file a report or sue, that’s your problem.

        Legally speaking you can’t be made to share tips with any staff who do not earn tips and have your employer claim the tip credit, nor can you receive less than the full minimum wage between tips (AFTER tip sharing) and wages under ANY circumstance.

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      • In reply to Logosrealm

        So every day your employer steals money from you, and you allow it to continue and do nothing to make it stop. You do not report it to the Department of Labor yet report back to work the next day.

        My question to you is:

        Are you just fucking stupid, retarded, or just in this country illegally?

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    • What a joke says:

      In reply to Hostess

      Also, we can certainly afford a tip. There’s just no justifiable reason to leave one.

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    • In reply to Hostess

      The service you speak of, is the job your employer pays you to do. It is your job to bring my food and drink to the table.

      I can easily afford to tip. I do not value what you do because it is unskilled and simple. If you want to make more money get a real job.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        If you think it is u skilled and simple try it on a busy rush on a Friday night at a hot spot. Just try it! I guarantee you couldn’t do it for 5 minutes. And I make more money doing this job than I have any other job which is why I continue ($40-50 an hour on the weekends) do you make that? At your REAL job ? Many people go to college and get REAL jobs and realize that they made more serving so they go back to that. It’s good money if you get in to the right place. I just worked a ties night (last night) . It was kinda busy/kinda slow…. Worked from 6-9 I made $150. Worked one party. So $50 an hour plus my hourly wage (which is crap). Boo hoo

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      • In reply to Bethany

        If you think you are skilled. Sorry- typing super fast

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      • Head Hostess says:

        In reply to $Bill

        Okay, but most college aged and teens can’t get any other kind of job. Serving is so stressful and most servers assemble the food by themselves. No, they do not get assistance when preparing these, but they still have a large amount of tables. You try getting drinks and salads for a table of 6 while also attempting to assemble and distribute food for up to 4 more tables. I am 100% positive that you know nothing about the service industry. The reason you should tip is that most servers barely break even some days. Calling people in the service industry “losers” just ahows how much of an ignorant jerk you are. I hope you get food poisoning every time you go to a restaurant, because Karma definitely forgot to punish you.

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      • In reply to Head Hostess

        Why is it that only ignorant people speak of Karma? So are you going to go pray to your retarded fish frog monkey god for tips? Maybe you should get up off your ass and do something about your life to improve it.
        If you think the simple job of being a waitress is difficult. You will never make it in the real world. When I was a teen, I was a waiter at an exclusive restaurant. It was the easiest, simplest, mind-numbing job I ever had in my life.
        So you are 100% wrong, making an ignorant statement that I know nothing about the service industry. There is very little you do need to know. That is the big reason why this job is unskilled and simple. For you this will be your career since you’re too dumb to do anything else.

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      • In reply to Head Hostess

        You also go on to say that the reason you should tip is because most servers barely break even on some days. Well every single day you make at least federal minimum-wage.

        Simple math dictates you are a moron.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Head Hostess

        **”Okay, but most college aged and teens can’t get any other kind of job.”**

        And? What’s your point? That’s why this type of job even exists – so students can make a little extra money. It’s not meant for people to live off of.

        **”Serving is so stressful and most servers assemble the food by themselves. No, they do not get assistance when preparing these, but they still have a large amount of tables.”**

        This is actually two different statements. In terms of serving being stressful – it isn’t, compared to most jobs. It’s only as stressful as you make it. Take a look at this list of Most Stressful Jobs of 2016:
        http://www.forbes.com/sites/kathryndill/2016/01/11/the-10-most-stressful-jobs-in-2016/

        Or how about this one:
        http://www.salary.com/the-top-10-most-stressful-jobs/

        Did you notice not one of them lists server? Every one of those jobs listed has one of these as a major stressor:
        1. Screwing up will cost them their lives, or cost the lives of others.
        2. Screwing up costs the company thousands, if not millions of dollars.
        3. Getting fired for mistakes means they will likely not be able to get a job again.

        If you screw up as a server, your worst outcome is having to walk your ass down the street to another restaurant and putting in another application.

        As for the putting things together, fast food workers do plenty of food prep, and they have to work faster than servers. They don’t get tips.

        **”You try getting drinks and salads for a table of 6 while also attempting to assemble and distribute food for up to 4 more tables. I am 100% positive that you know nothing about the service industry.”**

        $Bill here has worked as a server as a job, I’ve done it as volunteer work. If you consider that difficult, you have noooooo idea what difficulty is.

        When I was in school alone, I was taking the max amount of credits just to make sure I could graduate without taking an extra semester, for two semesters in a row. I had to study for 6 different classes, do homework, find time to work on group projects or papers that also fit in everyone else’s schedules, and work on individual projects. I had to maintain a high GPA (3.5+) to keep my scholarships and grants. I also needed to maintain that GPA because, as a single father, I didn’t have time for an internship, so the only way I was going to land a job in my field was impressive academics.

        **”The reason you should tip is that most servers barely break even some days. Calling people in the service industry “losers” just ahows how much of an ignorant jerk you are. I hope you get food poisoning every time you go to a restaurant, because Karma definitely forgot to punish you.”**

        Servers aren’t investing money, so there is no “breaking even.” They make at least federal minimum wage, and the job isn’t intended to live off of. They do nothing more than any other job that has no tips, so there’s no justification for it.

        And you clearly don’t understand karma. Karma is a force of balance. You get back what you put in. If we’re getting rewarded for the hard work and dedication we put in, while servers just stay poor because they whine and cry and hold out their hands because they think they deserve it, it’s exactly what karma is. Maybe it’s your attitude – wishing poor things on customers. Just like half the servers here making racist statements, or threatening harm to people simply for not giving them money they haven’t earned. That’s karma.

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  4. Joanna Davis says:

    Collosal asshole. I would be shocked and dismayed if you are single.

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  5. Mary Stevens says:

    Why didn’t the person who wrote this give his/her name?Afraid of being outed as the nasty,cheap bastard/bitch that he/she is?Disgusting and disgraceful.POS,stay home and eat.Cook and clean for yourself,because you don’t deserve to have this service done for you.

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    • What a joke says:

      In reply to Mary Stevens

      What the hell are you talking about?

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      • Former waiter/driver says:

        In reply to What a joke

        Customers that don’t tip at restaurant’s I have worked at have been told to not come back. I have also done delivery before and told the customers we can no longer deliever to your house.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Former waiter/driver

        Oh? Where’d you work? Because pretty much everyone here who has experienced a server whining about tips, the server has gotten fired.

        And it’s funny that a business would tell somebody not to come back just because they refused to do the restaurant’s job.

        Guess maybe it’s just shitty restaurants with crappy service.

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      • In reply to Former waiter/driver

        No restaurant will ever tell a wealthy customer to not come back for not tipping. Restaurants need repeat customers to stay in business.

        When I leave an exclusive restaurant without tipping, the manager thanks me for coming in and looks forward to my next visit.

        Waiters are a dime a dozen. Affluent clientele is needed and appreciated by the restaurant. Tipping you is not my concern.

        If I don’t like the waiter or waitress, I bring it to the attention of the manager. The next time I come back the subpar employee will no longer work there. Servers are extremely easy to replace.

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    • In reply to Mary Stevens

      You’re on this site and you don’t know my name?

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      • In reply to bhagwad

        She is a dumb waitress posting on your webpage . Your name and picture are all over the site. Waitresses do not possess much brainpower. This is a simple fact proven again and again.

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  6. College Chemistry Student says:

    haha. This guy. Don’t worry I get where you are coming from. Many people are like you. I am a college student who serves at pretty nice establishment. I pull in roughly 200 hundred a shift (fucking awesome I know). It enabled me to stop sucking the mothers tit and pay for everything myself (rent, utilities, insurance, etc…) while being a full time college student. That being said, what I do as a server is not meant for everyone. Many servers get demoted as soon as they start. You fail to realize that your world view of going to a restaurant is polar opposite for many people. Most people expect to have a server take care of any need they have. Servers are the face of the restaurant. They need to have exceptional communication skills and have a prospective towards the needs of everyone they are taking care of. Is it easy? for me, yes! I like a fast pace environment and am a really good communicator. From dealing and meeting needs to every type of person I have served, leaning the entire menu inside and out, and multitasking in stressful situation, I honestly feel serving has led me to my future chemical rep sales job ;). And dude, it is part of our culture. As an American, you have a choice of being that dick who doesn’t tip! I choose to tip because I enjoy the feeling of paying extra (five dollars is nothing to me) towards people serving me.

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    • In reply to College Chemistry Student

      I rather keep the 5 dollars that means nothing to me in my own pocket. The people serving me should be honored to be serving me. It is a brush of greatness for them.

      You think that learning the menu is a big deal? I find it sad this job even challenged you. Good thing you are only selling fertilizer chemicals. Pharmaceutical sales are well above your ability.

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    • What a joke says:

      In reply to College Chemistry Student

      So instead of “sucking the mothers tit” you’re instead sucking strangers’ tits and paying for everything with THEIR money. Money they actually earned. You might as well stand on a corner and hold up a sign begging for money, because that’s essentially what you’re doing. Except you use the pretense that somehow you’re earning the customer’s money doing the job you’re hired, and paid, to do by your employer.

      And being part of American culture doesn’t make it right. Slavery was part of American culture, and segregation. Denial of women’s rights was part of American culture.

      Hell, it didn’t even originate in America – it’s a borrowed custom from Europe where the upper class did it to show off how much money they had, and how much the poor would do for an extra penny. Even they think tipping in America is insane.

      Refusing to give you money you’re not earning isn’t being a dick. Expecting people who aren’t your employer to give you money just to do the job you’re already paid to do is being a dick. Imagine any other person doing that. Imagine the cable guy showing up, doing the install, then getting pissy because you didn’t slip him $10 afterwards. Imagine the grocery store clerk getting mad at you for not handing them an extra $20 on your $100 groceries.

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  7. W. Vaduz says:

    Ha, I COMPLETELY agree!

    Although I will tip as apparently that’s how low employer’s have sunk. I tip because it’s an unspoken part of the deal, an invisible charge and I put up with it.

    But really I don’t want waiters to go all buddy-buddy on me and I definitely don’t want to know their name.

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    • In reply to W. Vaduz

      Let me see if I have this right? The tip is an unspoken part of the deal, an invisible charge you put up with.

      A financial transaction should never have unscrupulous charges you put up with. There is no such thing as an unspoken part of a deal.

      I wish there was a way to say this nicely. You are truly a moron.

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