5 reasons why I won’t tip you if you’re a waiter

It never fails to shock me how a tip is demanded in the US. People simply refuse to listen to reason when we (yes, there are others!) tell them that leaving a tip isn’t necessary. Well, I’m hoping for too much here, but if you’re a waiter, here are 5 reasons why I will try my best not to give any money to you and why the reasons for tipping are crappy.

1. You act as if you’re my best friend

Just leave me alone ok? I don’t want to bloody chit chat with you. I want food. FOOD! Get it? It’s a restaurant. I go there to eat. I go because I want either Italian food, Chinese Food or something else which I can’t get in a McDonald’s. So I come to a restaurant to fulfill my cravings for it. I will pay for what I value – food. Not you.

Christ, you offend me – kneeling down next to my table, pretending to like me and chatting as if you’re my best friend when it’s obvious that all you’re after is the tip! I’m not a bloody money bag you know. I will pay the bill which includes the cost of the food, the environment and the salaries of the people involved – nothing more.

The only way to get money out of me that I don’t have to legally pay is by prying it out of my cold dead hands…

Bottom line: I don’t want to know your name, or interact with you for any longer than I have to in order to place my order. As far as I’m concerned, you’re the equivalent of a conveyor belt that brings me my food and a computer into which I input my order. Of course, I won’t be rude. But don’t expect me to interact with you any more than I would with some stranger.

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Did you earn this tip?

 

2. You don’t get paid enough

And this is my problem how exactly? It’s astonishing that customers are expected to make up for your employer’s cheapness in not paying you a decent wage. Please include the full cost in everyone’s bill thank you very much. I’ll pay it because I have to and the charge is there for me to see.

What’s really funny here is that no one seems to criticize the employers! All criticism is reserved for non tipping customers instead of the owners of the restaurant for not paying a decent wage. Wtf! Could it possibly be because you guys know you can make much more by tips and under report your income to the IRS?

3. You’ll spit in my food if I don’t tip you?

And I’ll shoot your kid if you don’t give me a million dollars. Seriously, am I even hearing this right? You’re actually using the threat of blackmail to make me pay you? Well as long as you’re openly claiming to be a criminal it’s all right I guess.

Fortunately that’s why I prefer buffets. Listen apart from it being illegal, this shows your poor integrity. But if you spit in someone’s food because they didn’t give you money you didn’t earn, then you’re a loser and deserve to be a waiter for the rest of your life.

4. Bringing me my food isn’t worthy of being paid extra

Did you cook it? Did you invent it? No. You picked it up and brought it to me. While it might not be easy, there are plenty of jobs which are much worse – shop floor workers for example. And I’ve been a shop floor manager, so I know. Face it – compared to other jobs, being a waiter is unskilled. You get paid what the market will think your services are worth. You don’t deserve more for your work over and above what your employer should pay you.

5. Money doesn’t grow on trees

I expect you to be grateful and pray for me at night if I tip you 10%. Be happy I gave you anything at all. I worked for the money in my wallet and by giving you some I didn’t have to, I’m doing you a favor. Learn to remember that when people give you something they don’t need to, it’s a favor. You don’t complain that they didn’t give you more!

By the way, the same thing above applies to all professions that demand tips including those on cruise liners.

So now that you understand why I won’t give you money you don’t deserve, stop with the “oh how could you?” attitude. I can. And I will.

Update: Here’s a rebuttal of the many silly justifications for tipping that people have given in the comments section.

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  1. I have a masters degree in chemical engineering. Several times a year I go to training classes to learn new technology and advancements.

    If I make a mistake it can cost several thousand dollars, and the company may need to lay off people until it can recouped the loss.

    You are a unskilled waitress fetching food and drinks. You don’t deserve a tip or extra money.

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    • In reply to Fredric

      Waitresses think their job is hard and skilled. The truth is, simple people are challenged by simple tasks. Waiting tables is unskilled and simple.

      Waiters think they should be tipped for the service they provided. It is not a service at all. It is their job to fetch your dinner and drinks. You were hired to serve people. If you want extra money then get a second job. I will never tip the hired help.

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      • james ngyugen says:

        In reply to $Bill

        Im glad people spit in your food. If you can’t be a decent person to leave a tip then make your own damn food. Don’t go out. Every server would be happy not to deal with your bullshit. For every server that has to deal with piece of shit people like you. Fuck you hope you get hit by a car

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      • In reply to james ngyugen

        Tipping does not make you a decent person it makes you a fool! The server should be thrilled to wait on someone as important as me. A waiter is nothing but a modern-day servant.

        I am wealthy and well educated. The waiter is just shit under my shoes.

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      • In reply to james ngyugen

        Well him eating the chefs food pays your wage. If he doesn’t come and pay for the meal then you’re out of a job regardless. If you’re at a retail store looking for shoes to try on. Do you believe you should tip the person whose also paid minimum wage to go back and forth finding your size shoe? Because that’s basically all you are doing is going back and forth to bring the correct order to the customer.

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      • In reply to james ngyugen

        Leaving a tip does not make you a decent person. It makes you stupid and foolish for throwing away your money.

        A server should be honored to serve a wealthy important person such as myself. I don’t tip the hired help for doing their menial unskilled jobs.

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      • Dr. Wolfgang says:

        In reply to $Bill

        I tend to dine at exclusive restaurants that are very overpriced. I will admit it is a silly waste of money. I can afford this luxury, and enjoy the indulgence at the end of the day.

        It feels good to know that I am not the only person who thinks tipping is no different then flushing your money down the toilet. I truly don’t care if the waiter relies on that money. The reason I dine out is for fancy food, not to pay the wages of the help.

        Caviar stuffed mushrooms, lobster tail, truffle infused blue mashed potatoes, flourless chocolate cake covered with raspberry gold frosting. The check for the four of us was around $495.

        I hate at the end of the meal when the waiters kiss your ass, it is so demeaning for them. The look on their faces when they see I left them no tip is priceless.

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      • In reply to Dr. Wolfgang

        It does ruin the meal at the end when the serving wenches kiss your ass.
        I have tried caviar many times. The eggs pop in your mouth with the overpowering salt and fish taste. It makes me want to gag, I don’t know how you enjoy it?

        The rest of your meal sounds really good though.

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      • In reply to Dr. Wolfgang

        Wow you cocksucker. You’re taking advantage of a system that you know is in place already. Yeah you’re a worthless piece of trash.

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      • Dr. Wolfgang says:

        In reply to Ken

        I am heterosexual therefore I do not suck cock. The proper terminology is penis.

        The waiters and waitresses were hired by the restaurant to serve their customers. They get paid by their employer, at a wage they agreed upon when they took the job. I am not obligated to tip, because I am not under any contractual obligation to do so I am legally only required to pay my bill.

        As a customer it is not my responsibility to pay the wages of the hired help. Since you are already paid federal minimum wage, the pay you receive is more than adequate for your level of skill and education.

        You need to grow up and stop feeling like the world owes you extra money. You are an adult, use adult words when you talk about male reproductive organs.

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      • Dr. Wolfgang says:

        In reply to Ken

        I am heterosexual therefore I do not suck cock. The proper terminology is penis.

        The waiters and waitresses were hired by the restaurant to serve their customers. They get paid by their employer, at a wage they agreed upon when they took the job. I am not obligated to tip, because I am not under any contractual obligation to do so I am legally only required to pay my bill.

        As a customer it is not my responsibility to pay the wages of the hired help. Since you are already paid federal minimum wage, the pay you receive is more than adequate for your level of skill and education.

        You need to grow up and stop feeling like the world owes you extra money. You are an adult, use adult words when you talk about male reproductive organs.

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      • Dr. Wolfgang says:

        In reply to Ken

        I am heterosexual therefore I do not suck cock. The proper terminology is penis.

        The waiters and waitresses were hired by the restaurant to serve their customers. They get paid by their employer, at a wage they agreed upon when they took the job. I am not obligated to tip, because I am not under any contractual obligation to do so I am legally only required to pay my bill.

        As a customer it is not my responsibility to pay the wages of the hired help. Since you are already paid federal minimum wage, the pay you receive is more than adequate for your level of skill and education.

        You need to grow up and stop feeling like the world owes you extra money. You are an adult, use adult words when you talk about male reproductive organs.

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      • In reply to Ken

        If it were in place you’d be paying taxes on your tips.

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      • In reply to Jmorris

        Whether it happens or not, by law servers are required to report all of their tips. I’m sure they can easily pocket cash but there’s no way around the credit card tips. In reference to a system being in place I was talking about the fact that people know how it works and if they don’t want to tip they have the option to order food to go.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Ken

        “How it works” is the server is paid for their job by their employer, and tipping is, by it’s very nature, optional. If it weren’t, it would be a fee and would legally have to be listed as part of the price.

        Even so-called “mandatory” tips have been determined by courts to not be legally enforceable if a person refuses to pay them since a gratuity is, by definition, voluntary.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        Look dude I’m not here to debate. I think you know what I meant.

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      • In reply to Ken

        We know how tipping works. It is optional. I choose not to tip and there is nothing wrong with that. A server is only worth the minimum wage they already earn. Honestly, they should make much less.

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      • In reply to Zeus

        I’ve never served before but I would imagine it’s very stressful and hectic. I’d say it’s easily worth more than minimum wage. Perhaps you would too if you had a son or daughter doing it. Or God forbid you lose your job and it’s your only option for employment.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Ken

        Many of us have had jobs as a server. It’s one of the easiest jobs ever, and anyone who says differently is simply incapable of doing anything else. The only stress involved is if they let themselves be stressed out by it. If they fuck up, or even if they lose their job, it’s NOTHING to go get a new job. My cousin has a list of 20+ places she has worked because she’s a terrible worker, and yet she has no trouble getting hired.

        Either way, nobody is making them take the job, and they are the ones who agreed to the pay. If they don’t like it, then it’s up to them to get a different job just like anyone else.

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      • Fuzzy navel says:

        In reply to Ken

        Only stressful if you make it stressful. For me it was easy to serve. If someone got mad, tell the boss and have him or her deal with it. That’s what their paid for. And on I went with my business.

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      • In reply to Zeus

        May karma reach you in the most unexpected and yet most well deserved way

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      • In reply to Kara

        May you forever work at minimum wage jobs and enjoy continued success having unwed kids all while enjoying your beautiful trailer park.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Kara

        Karma is neither malevolent or beneficent. It is balance. How often do you see servers spontaneously rewarded for their constantly playing victims? How often do you see the rich who have built up their wealth lose it? Neither happens very often.

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      • In reply to Jmorris

        You guys are both fucktard’s, plain and simple. You have no regard for anyone other than your personal indulgences ! You have obviously never gotten your hands dirty to put yourself through school or to support your family! And if you had any idea what’s going around in the world, we do pay taxes on our tips, idiot!

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      • Dr. Wolfgang says:

        In reply to Ken

        I am heterosexual therefore I do not suck cock. The proper terminology is penis.

        The waiters and waitresses were hired by the restaurant to serve their customers. They get paid by their employer, at a wage they agreed upon when they took the job. I am not obligated to tip, because I am not under any contractual obligation to do so I am legally only required to pay my bill.

        As a customer it is not my responsibility to pay the wages of the hired help. Since you are already paid federal minimum wage, the pay you receive is more than adequate for your level of skill and education.

        You need to grow up and stop feeling like the world owes you extra money. You are an adult, use adult words when you talk about male reproductive organs.

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      • Dr. Wolfgang says:

        In reply to Ken

        I am heterosexual therefore I do not suck cock. The proper terminology is penis.

        The waiters and waitresses were hired by the restaurant to serve their customers. They get paid by their employer, at a wage they agreed upon when they took the job. I am not obligated to tip, because I am not under any contractual obligation to do so I am legally only required to pay my bill.

        As a customer it is not my responsibility to pay the wages of the hired help. Since you are already paid federal minimum wage, the pay you receive is more than adequate for your level of skill and education.

        You need to grow up and stop feeling like the world owes you extra money. You are an adult, use adult words when you talk about male reproductive organs.

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      • Dr. Wolfgang says:

        In reply to Ken

        I am heterosexual therefore I do not suck cock. The proper terminology is penis.

        The waiters and waitresses were hired by the restaurant to serve their customers. They get paid by their employer, at a wage they agreed upon when they took the job. I am not obligated to tip, because I am not under any contractual obligation to do so I am legally only required to pay my bill.

        As a customer it is not my responsibility to pay the wages of the hired help. Since you are already paid federal minimum wage, the pay you receive is more than adequate for your level of skill and education.

        You need to grow up and stop feeling like the world owes you extra money. You are an adult, use adult words when you talk about male reproductive organs.

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      • In reply to Dr. Wolfgang

        Most of these waiters and waitresses are students in college trying to make ends meet. Therefore, your ignorance in calling them uneducated and not tipping them because you some how think you are above them; is deserving of saliva filled entrée. Shame on all of you for thinking you are superior to any of our hard working college students or those just simply trying to provide for their families. I respect anyone willing to work hard for their wages. At least they are working and not asking for a hand out.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to KNDC

        1. Waiting tables is not hard work. Period. Several of the people here who think tipping is BS have done waiting and say so.

        2. If they are trying to take care of their family, they are doing a shit job of it if they refuse to get a better job and put in REAL work. They are setting a poor example for their children by begging for unearned money and playing the victim instead of taking responsibility.

        3. Tipping perpetuates the poor wages and pushes the blame on the customer. If you think server’s poor wages are wrong, then you need to stop tipping so the restaurants have to step up to their responsibility.

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      • In reply to Dr. Wolfgang

        May karma reach you in the most unexpected and yet most well deserved way

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    • Stan Rothwell says:

      In reply to Fredric

      I guess I’m an uneducated slob compared to you, as I only have a 4 year degree (BS Chem E) from an admittedly second-rate school (Cal Berkeley). However, I delivered pizza in my community college days, and was fortunate enough to have parents that taught me some manners, and before college I spent 6 years in the US Air Force, where young men (and women) were expected to be professional and learn manners as well. My typical restaurant tip is between 20% and 25%, and even above that when I receive great service. The places I frequent are always happy to see me, I never get stuck in a corner, the waiters and staff are attentive and always treating me to extras. Bhagwad/Frederic: you’re not special. You’re simply ill-bred louts with no manners or class. Need I say more?

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    • In reply to Fredric

      You cunt. I am a full time waiter and I average over $20 an hour, I’m a good person with a college education: this is just where I am now, it takes allot more than you think to keep your cool with the public. I deserve to be tipped for my services and if you can’t afford to tip and disguise it as something else your a poor Freddy individual, go to McDonalds

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      • In reply to Matt

        You act like an entitled little boy. You think you should be tipped for your services? The services you provide are nothing but your unskilled job description stupid. You don’t deserve any extra money.

        Waiting on an important wealthy person such as myself should be a great honor for you. I never tip the hired help.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        Most of these waiters and waitresses are students in college trying to make ends meet. Therefore, your ignorance in calling them uneducated and not tipping them because you some how think you are above them; is deserving of saliva filled entrée. Shame on all of you for thinking you are superior to any of our hard working college students or those just simply trying to provide for their families. I respect anyone willing to work hard for their wages. At least they are working and not asking for a hand out.

        Stay home and eat cheapskate!

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      • In reply to KNDC

        I pay the bill, not your wages. I am not your employer dumbass.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        You’re nobody’s employer. In fact you’re nobody. Just some pussy troll.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        $Bill you are no one’s employer we get it. In addition to that YOU are no one. Just some pussy troll.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        You, sir, are probably not as important as you think you are.

        As someone else stated above, by not tipping you’re taking advantage of the gratuity system when you eat out. I’m not arguing whether or not you SHOULD tip (you most certainly should) but the server is serving you on the assumption that they will be tipped 15-20% of the bill as a courtesy. Some servers (I’ve only ever worked in busy restaurants, so idk about others) constantly are running around between 5+ tables, some are uniquely demanding. You sir, as a patron, are benefitted by the hope of a tip that you won’t give them. Servers are capable of providing good service that isn’t over-the-top, and is “worthy” of $2.13/hour. Essentially, tell your servers you don’t believe in tipping because their job is easy, and you’ll receive exactly the type of effort you think they put it.

        Lastly, no one is honored by meeting you. Meeting you doesn’t pay bills. Meeting you doesn’t help me finish my degree. You aren’t that important, if you were, you’d be using your real name $Bill.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Landron

        The fact that they assume they will be tipped is part of the problem. Their assumption isn’t justified, and in most of the world is outright absurd. Even by the definition of the term gratuity, the assumption is absurd.

        It’s their responsibility to pay their bills, and, if their choice in job doesn’t allow them to do that, it is on them. There is no contract with the patron, there is only their agreed upon wage from their employer and no intelligent person would assume they would get more money from a person who is not their employer just for doing the job their employer pays them to do. Nor should anyone expect to pay their bills with a job that takes no special skill to do.

        There is no justification for tipping, least of all the expectation of one.

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      • In reply to Landron

        I’m starting to think $Bill is just some loser living in his mom’s basement who spends his time trolling and jerking off.

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      • In reply to Landron

        I will say it again. I am not your employer.
        $2.13 an hour you are full of shit. With or without tips you make federal minimum-wage
        http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm

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      • In reply to $Bill

        $Bill you’re no one’s employer. In fact YOU are no one. Just some pussy with a smart phone who lives in his mom’s basement.

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      • In reply to Landron

        I don’t speak to the hired help, except to give them my drink and dinner order.

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      • Fuzzy navel says:

        In reply to $Bill

        Bartended this weekend for a non profit event all tips and my wages went to the charity.

        This is how easy your industry is. I smiled. Asked how I can help you, listened, then with one whole arm I would poor the beer. I would use my legs and walk back to them and exchange for their currency. Thank them for the contribution and proceeded to the next customer.
        Here’s my breakdown a day in the service industries shoes.
        Scale of 1-10
        Physical exhaustion – 2
        (fast walk) swift but precise hand movements to not spill too much.

        Mental Exhaustion- 2
        Reminding people that all tips and wages that day were going to the vets and service animals, was a little monotonous. I don’t like sounding like a robot and doing the same thing over and over.

        Stress- 1
        I got someone’s drink wrong once out of maybe the 500+ customers I served that day.
        I handled it promptly gave them the correct one and everyone was still happy.

        Perks of the job.
        Got a few girls numbers, one offered me a blowie and when I was off my shift a few of the vets said hi and gave me a little bit of their story.

        The fact y’all feel entitled to tips is laughable. Definitely a job anyone can do.

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      • $Bill's Mom says:

        In reply to $Bill

        Billy boy get off that computer and finish your chores!

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      • In reply to Matt

        $20 an hour my ass You probably ride a broken down bicycle to your silly teenager job.

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      • In reply to Matt

        By the way Matt. You sound like a strong strapping young gentleman. Can I suck your dick? I forgot to mention the only way I’ll tip a server is if he will let me suck his dick or will fuck me up the ass.

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    • Lucretia Baker says:

      In reply to Fredric

      *an
      Sincerely,
      An “Uneducated” Server with No Skills

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  2. Haha this guy is a faggot nobody gives a shit about you and not tipping go fuck yourself 😂

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    • Fuzzy navel says:

      In reply to Andrew

      Wow name calling. Something I would expect my 5 year old to do. You must be one of the grossly immature types that still runs his life by zero f’s givin.

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  3. Jack Tipper says:

    Only a douchebag would eat in a restaurant, or use any kind of service person and not tip.

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    • What a joke says:

      In reply to Jack Tipper

      So you tip your cashier at Walmart? The guy who takes your order at McDonald’s?

      How about your doctors and nurses? By definition they are service sector. Do you give them 15-20% on top of your medical bills? How about your tax preparer? Also service sector.

      I can guarantee you don’t tip every person in the service sector.

      Tipping, by it’s very definition, is optional. There is absolutely no justification for it.

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    • In reply to Jack Tipper

      Only a doushbag would leave a tip. I don’t waste my money.

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    • In reply to Jack Tipper

      I’m at a restaurant right now. The check is $113.00

      I am leaving zero tip. That is exactly what a waitress is worth.

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      • In reply to Gene

        Prove it.

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      • In reply to Ken

        $113 bill is nothing unusual. Since you can’t post pictures, how do you expect Gene to prove it?

        I think it is ridiculous a person would leave a 20% tip ($22.60) on that check. I would have left zero as well.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        Exactly $Bill. You can’t post pictures. Which leads me to believe you are just some loser who lives in his mom’s basement.

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      • In reply to Ken

        Are you retarded or mentally disabled? The reasoning you use to develop your hypothesis based upon the inability to post pictures makes absolutely no sense.

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      • In reply to $Bill

        My point is $Bill with a pseudo name like $Bill and no way to post proof of who you are you can basically make yourself out to be whoever you want to be. I personally think you’re a troll who beats off to pictures of his own mother. But of course I could be wrong.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Ken

        Whatever helps you sleep at night, Kenny. 95% of the world thinks American tipping is asinine, and 85%+ doesn’t tip at all, or only tips a small amount for rare, exceptional service, but obviously anyone who doesn’t like tipping must be a basement dwelling troll lol

        $Bill isn’t a server, so obviously he’s not living in his parents’ basement. Otherwise he’d be here whining for money he hasn’t earned, too.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        Sounds like you and $Bill just might be the same person. Whoever you are your numbers are obviously inaccurate or the tipping industry would be obsolete by now. Now go back to your mom’s basement and continue jerking off to those pictures of your mom.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Ken

        That’s some faulty logic you have there. Tipping isn’t an industry in most of the world, and even in places where tipping was once common it’s becoming less and less so. Even in the US, more and more places are getting rid of tipping.

        But like I said, whatever helps you sleep at night.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        Faulty logic is bringing the rest of the world into it. Not sure that’s the issue at hand. And how do you know $Bill doesn’t live in his mom’s basement? Do you know $Bill? Are you $Bill?

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Ken

        Nope, I’m not $Bill, but he has talked about things that poor people don’t generally understand. I’d know, I grew up poor.

        However, once I was old enough, I took responsibility for my own life and did something about it. I didn’t sit and whine about how the world owes me for shit. I got my life together, went to college as a single father without asking for people to give me money I didn’t earn (which tips most definitely are).

        You haven’t offered a single legitimate reason for tipping, just a bunch of excuses offered by tipped employees as to why they think they deserve money they don’t earn. The vast majority of the world sees it that way, too. In fact, several countries (like Japan) see tipping as an insult, which it originally was. The fact that employers have convinced servers that customers are the cause of their financial woes just shows how dumb those employees are, and how willing they are to push the blame on anyone but themselves.

        If you buy into tipping, you’re either a con artist trying to convince people to give you money you haven’t earned, or a rube they’re targeting who is too dumb to realize it’s all a scam and there’s no legitimacy to it.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        Thank you so much for setting all of us straight. My first job in college was as a pizza delivery driver. Since I didn’t earn that money, I’m gonna go back to every person who tipped me and give that money back. And since I “didn’t earn” the money I paid for college with perhaps I should give back my degree and all my earnings associated with it. I too was a single father. I drove a limo on weekends to pay court costs, child support and to basically be able to take better care of my kid. If you believe I should’ve taken a straight hourly job in my extra time at half the pay then obviously that’s your opinion. I took the most lucrative opportunity at the time and made the best of it. Not once have I felt I “didn’t earn it”.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Ken

        It’s not an opinion. You’re a flat out mooch. You absolutely didn’t earn that money. You carried food! People in fast food do more work than that, and they sure as hell don’t get paid extra just for doing it!

        The fact that you gamed the system is exactly proof of the problem. There is absolutely no reason you should have earned more than minimum wage at such a simple job, and no justification for it, and certainly no justification for perpetuating a broken system. It’s absolute insanity, and con artists like you insisting people pay you to do a job you are already being paid to do should be thrown in prison and given hard labor to show what actually working hard is like.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        That’s your opinion. And a stupid one. You’re no better than me you dipshit. You never will be. Go fuck yourselves you useless pussy.

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      • In reply to What a joke

        Perhaps I’ll neglect to tip your mother the next time I have sex with her. Wouldn’t want to support a mooch.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Ken

        Dear God! Why would you have sex with my elderly, morbidly obese mother with incontinence, let alone pay for it?! I wouldn’t tip your lazy ass, let alone expect you to tip for that.

        I guess whatever floats your boat, though.

        Either way, if ad hominem is all you have, it just proves you have no basis for your argument.

        However, I do.
        Article on why you should feel bad for tipping: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/18/i-dare-you-to-read-this-and-still-feel-ok-about-tipping-in-the-united-states/

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      • Myron wright says:

        In reply to Ken

        You basically just said that you pay for sex. Why are you trying to talk about ethics?

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      • In reply to Ken

        Considering the fact that most of your posts contain inappropriate childish references to incest and jerking off. It is very clear your level of education is very low, and you are a very unhappy serving wench.

        I think you are very jealous of people like me that can afford to dine at exclusive restaurants anytime I want. I see you staring at my Audi R8, and my platinum Rolex. You are a jealous little puke that wishes he was me.

        So instead of getting a real job. You complain about people like me that don’t tip you because you are so financially dependent on the kindness of others. Begging for Tips is only one step above begging for change on a street corner.

        Your job is very unskilled and simple. It is not deserving of any extra money. I am not your employer. If you are unhappy with your pathetic pay get a real job. You are not a teenager anymore. Time for you to grow the fuck up.

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      • In reply to Ken

        Considering the fact that most of your posts contain inappropriate childish references to incest and jerking off. It is very clear your level of education is very low, and you are a very unhappy serving wench.

        I think you are very jealous of people like me that can afford to dine at exclusive restaurants anytime I want. I see you staring at my Audi R8, and my platinum Rolex. You are a jealous little puke that wishes he was me.

        So instead of getting a real job. You complain about people like me that don’t tip you because you are so financially dependent on the kindness of others. Begging for Tips is only one step above begging for change on a street corner.

        Your job is very unskilled and simple. It is not deserving of any extra money. I am not your employer. If you are unhappy with your pathetic pay get a real job. You are not a teenager anymore. Time for you to grow the fuck up.

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      • In reply to Ken

        Considering the fact that most of your posts contain inappropriate childish references to incest and jerking off. It is very clear your level of education is very low, and you are a very unhappy serving wench.

        I think you are very jealous of people like me that can afford to dine at exclusive restaurants anytime I want. I see you staring at my Audi R8, and my platinum Rolex. You are a jealous little puke that wishes he was me.

        So instead of getting a real job. You complain about people like me that don’t tip you because you are so financially dependent on the kindness of others. Begging for Tips is only one step above begging for change on a street corner.

        Your job is very unskilled and simple. It is not deserving of any extra money. I am not your employer. If you are unhappy with your pathetic pay get a real job. You are not a teenager anymore. Time for you to grow Up.

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      • Lucretia Baker says:

        In reply to What a joke

        First of all, don’t pull numbers out of thin air. Being a server, I can tell you that most people do tip. If you’re going to argue, at least get the numbers right. Second, if the American people really don’t like the system, why is there not a petition of some sort to change it? This country put this system in place, so if, as an individual, you do not like said system, don’t go out to eat. A restaurant is a place to go where you don’t have to do anything. You’re being taken care of. Servers are a crucial part of that well oiled machine, and if you don’t want to pay for it, make your own food at home.

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      • What a joke says:

        In reply to Lucretia Baker

        First, I’m not pulling numbers out of thin air. The only country in the world that doesn’t think America’s tipping system is absurd is basically America, which makes up 4.4% of the world population. I rounded up.

        Second, there are petitions, and movements from both political sides to get rid of tipping. There has always been a movement from EDUCATED people to get rid of it. In the 1900s laws were passed to ban tipping, but then repealed because they simply couldn’t enforce it – after all, tipping isn’t a REQUIREMENT, it is, by its very definition, voluntary (as reinforced by the IRS and the courts). Tipping originated as a way of showing off money by the wealthy in Europe, and it was considered very un-American, so people didn’t think it was right. Since they couldn’t get people to stop tipping, they put the system in place (that you mentioned) around when they first introduced minimum wage as a way to say that employers could reduce the amount of pay their employees got to offset what they were getting in tips. In other words, the tip credit was produced to ensure servers didn’t get “more than what they earned.” However, over time social pressure and absurd misconceptions allowed employers to push the view of responsibility onto the customer. Meanwhile, the rest of the world almost never tips, or only tips a small amount for very exceptional service.

        People believe tipping should be banned for all sorts of reasons, regardless of whether they’re founded in fact or misinformation (interestingly, the misinformed tend to be those who believe that servers ONLY make $2.13 an hour by law):
        “Why Tipping Should Be Illegal” – Esquire http://www.esquire.com/food-drink/restaurants/a23132/why-tipping-should-be-illegal-15603180/

        ” I dare you to read this and still feel good about tipping” – The Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/18/i-dare-you-to-read-this-and-still-feel-ok-about-tipping-in-the-united-states/

        “Why Tipping Is Wrong” – The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/opinion/why-tipping-is-wrong.html

        “The case against tipping” – The Economist

        “Behind the Move to Ban Tipping” – The Wall Street Journal https://www.wsj.com/articles/behind-the-move-to-ban-tipping-1447206602

        “When Tipping Was Considered Deeply Un-American” – NPR http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/

        “Why Tipping Should Be Banned” – Adam Ruins Everything https://youtu.be/q_vivC7c_1k

        There’s no legitimate reason to perpetuate this ridiculous system, and the movement to get rid of it is growing more each year, and more places are getting rid of it either in restaurants, or even city wide.

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      • Fuzzy navel says:

        In reply to Lucretia Baker

        Reasons tipping should go away.
        1. Sexual harassment. How many time have any of you as a server been harassed, and you smiled, let it go, because you were afraid your patron wouldn’t tip. All because you need the tips that your management doesn’t cover in your wage?

        2. As a professional, which some or all of you like to call yourselves. Why do you need to be tipped. Every professional I’ve ever met has never had to rely on someone else’s extra gratuity to do their job correctly. The customer either comes back to pay for service again, because they were happy with it. Or they don’t and your business closes from poor work ethics.

        3. A majority of you server types feel like you belong on a pedestal and deserve this and that because you feel you work way harder then anyone else out there. However tipping is nature is demeaning. It basically says you’re my bitch and I’ll pay you if I feel you deserve it. I respect the guy or gal making normal minimum wage at Best Buy helping me with a purchase than someone I am supposedly supposed to tip and having to judge your actions during my service to figure out what you are worth.
        The worker at bestbuy already knows they are hired to give customer satisfaction and help them. And also knows they are going to be paid no matter what because they were hired to give professional help.

        4. I enjoy banging out bartenders because they think I’m their way out of the industry. However what I and anyone else who bang out the staff of restaurants think is they’re just a peice of ass and whenever I come into the establishment I can tell my guys which ones I dropped a load in. Honestly it’s because I can’t take someone seriously who relies on the opinions of the masses to pay their wages on the account of being fake and needing to please others even against their own morals. That just says you’re a weak person and not worth my effort.

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      • In reply to Lucretia Baker

        Being taken care of my butt. Waiting on me as your job. You are paid by your employer to serve me. I compensate the restaurant by paying extra money for my meal in the form of a high menu prices. Tipping you extra money for that is not my problem. Take it up with your employer.

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      • In reply to Ken

        Considering the fact that most of your posts contain inappropriate childish references to incest and jerking off. It is very clear your level of education is very low, and you are a very unhappy serving wench.

        I think you are very jealous of people like me that can afford to dine at exclusive restaurants anytime I want. I see you staring at my Audi R8, and my platinum Rolex. You are a jealous little puke that wishes he was me.

        So instead of getting a real job. You complain about people like me that don’t tip you because you are so financially dependent on the kindness of others. Begging for Tips is only one step above begging for change on a street corner.

        Your job is very unskilled and simple. It is not deserving of any extra money. I am not your employer. If you are unhappy with your pathetic pay get a real job. You are not a teenager anymore. Time for you to grow the fuck up.

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  4. Myron wright says:

    Yo, tipping really isnt supposed to be a expected thing. I earn my money. Who are to tell me what i should do with MY MONEY. I would give my money to a homeless person before i would someone that made the CHOICE to work for shit pay. I have worked for tips and you KNOW WHAT I DID? I QUIT AND GOT A BETTER JOB THAT PAYS MORE THAN ANY TIP THAT I GOT. Society is fucking with your heads. If it was law to pay tip, i wouldnt even question it. If its a question of ethics, im still thinking about the fact that i earned MY OWN MONEY. I will never let a motherfucker tell me what i have to do with MY MONEY. I already pay the government taxes and they havent accomplished shit. I mean how do you make the same mistakes in history? Ill tell you how….BY BEING A FUCKING TARD

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  5. I'm Better Than You says:

    $Bill, you are in no way important. No one talks like that!

    Also, I’m a server that makes $70K a year and let me tell you a few things.

    1. It’s not an unskilled job. Not many people can serve correctly.
    2. Knowledge alone separates the men from the boys in the food world.
    3. If you don’t tip in a country where that’s customary, you’re scum. Period.
    4. If you want your dining costs to increase by 30% to pay staff better wages so be it.
    5. Bill if I ever meet you or see you or wait on you I will pull your mouth open and shit into your throat.

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    • What a joke says:

      In reply to I’m Better Than You

      Haha man, you’re so full of shit.

      “1. It’s not an unskilled job. Not many people can serve correctly.”

      An unskilled job is, by definition, “generally characterized by a lower educational attainment, such as a high school diploma, GED or lack thereof, and typically results in smaller wages. Work that requires no specific education level or specialized experience is often available to the unskilled labor force.” http://www.investopedia.com/terms/u/unskilled-labor.asp

      Waiting tables requires no formal education. They quite literally train monkeys to wait tables. People who can’t successfully wait tables are used as examples of people who are complete failures at life. And I don’t just mean people who don’t like tipping – if you tell anyone somebody can’t even wait tables without fucking up, the consensus is that person is incapable of even the most simple of tasks.

      “2. Knowledge alone separates the men from the boys in the food world.”

      Haha what? If you say so! Any asshole can walk in off the street, get a job, and in 3 months be a pro if they’re not complete failures at life.

      “3. If you don’t tip in a country where that’s customary, you’re scum. Period.”

      Between 37.9 and 61.1% of people leave tips, depending on which state you live in, with an average of 55.4% of tippers. This means that nearly half of all customers do not tip. At all. In some states, fewer people tip than do. There’s also a growing movement to completely ban tipping. https://qz.com/189458/the-united-states-of-tipping/

      “4. If you want your dining costs to increase by 30% to pay staff better wages so be it.”

      This is absolutely absurd. Per my prior link, the average tip is 16.1% nation wide. As things stand, by law a restaurant must pay a server the difference between the tipped minimum of $2.13 and the full Federal minimum of $7.25 if the server were to make absolutely nothing in tips. Even if they “needed” to raise prices to cover that, it’s $5.12 per hour per server. If a restaurant is decent at planning, this means at LEAST 4 tables active per server, and that amounts to $1.28 per table per hour. Even Red Robin, which is the cheapest chain restaurant nationally and only has tabs of around $12.17 per person, would only require 10.5% if you assumed only one person per table! Most restaurants wouldn’t need nearly that much of an increase. Nobody would even notice. http://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-it-costs-to-eat-at-resaurants-2015-3

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    • In reply to I’m Better Than You

      If you make 70,000 a year you are not a waiter. You are so funny. I think if you see $20,000 a year you’re lucky.

      Your comment that menu prices need to go up by 30%, shows your education level is that of an elementary school child. With or without tips you need to make at least federal minimum-wage or state minimum wage whichever is higher. You are overpaid from the start.

      Waiting tables is a job for teenagers, you’re not supposed to do this if you are an adult. You should think about getting a real job that pays adult money.

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  6. Firstly, waiting tables can be a tough job. I did it all through college and although I make a very comfortable living at the moment, I wont ever forget those sweaty, sticky nights running around in the service of of crude morons who talk to and treat you with the same attitude displayed throughout this article/comment section.

    Secondly, I would never, repeat NEVER spit in a customer’s food. What’s the point in working up a nice salty sweat just to have it seep into your pants?

    Ass fingers was my favorite was to give rude customers that little extra flavor they deserved. I knew many fellow workmaktes who preferred to deploy some bio-weapon based revenge in the form of a sneeze, or rough chesty gag, but for me there’s no better way to keep a shift interesting than to watch some obnoxious dunce cram fork fulls of my nasty raw ass tang into his literally shit eating mouth. I thoroughly recommend it to anyone still working in the industry. :)

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    • In reply to Damon

      You are the perfect reason why people should never tip.

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    • In reply to Damon

      lol. that is fucking gross. Although I did work in a place once where on the rare occasion that someone deserved a ‘sneezer’, or a spit burger than their food would be passed to the person on duty who had been most recently ill or was coming down with something. I never did it because you never know, maybe you just caught the customer on a bad day. But I have seen guys nearly push their fingers down to the back of their throat to get the mucus.

      Thought it was pretty nasty because the person could have kids, or old family members they could pass that shit on to.

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